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Could Reagan win the nomination today?

Could Reagan win the nomination today?

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Kunsoo

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From Rachel Maddow's blog:

If you're out there trying to argue that Ronald Reagan couldn't win in today's Republican Party, here's a kit: Reagan gave amnesty to undocumented immigrants, expanded the size of the federal government, tripled the deficit and added trillions to the debt, backed bailouts of domestic industries, and called for a world without nuclear weapons. Reagan also routinely compromised with Democrats, met with our most hated enemy without preconditions, criticized Israel, and illegally funneled arms to Iran.

And then there's his gubernatorial record: in California, Reagan increased spending, raised taxes, helped create the nation's first state-based emissions standards, signed an abortion-rights bill, and expanded the nation's largest state-based Medicaid program (socialized health insurance).


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Sure, why not. Romney got the nomination, didn't he?

Kunsoo

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Sure, why not. Romney got the nomination, didn't he?
Romney got it by denying his past. Would Reagan do that?

sh76
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Originally posted by Kunsoo
From Rachel Maddow's blog:

If you're out there trying to argue that Ronald Reagan couldn't win in today's Republican Party, here's a kit: Reagan gave amnesty to undocumented immigrants, expanded the size of the federal government, tripled the deficit and added trillions to the debt, backed bailouts of domestic industries, and called for a world without ...[text shortened]... msnbc.com/​_news/2012/08/28/​13527001-its-reagans-party-no-m​ore?lite
Bush also did a lot of that.

AThousandYoung
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Reagan was skilled at manipulating right wing voters. He could play them like a fiddle. His policies weren't how he got into power. His charisma was. He was like Obama or Clinton that way.

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Originally posted by sh76
Bush also did a lot of that.
He did some of it. He slipped in the horrible no-strings-attached bailout plan just as he was leaving, and now Obama's tagged for the blame. But his policies are well the the right of Reagan's, which were well to the right of Nixon's, which were well to the right of Eisenhauer. You have to go back to Herbert Hoover for more conservative policies.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Reagan was skilled at manipulating right wing voters. He could play them like a fiddle. His policies weren't how he got into power. His charisma was. He was like Obama or Clinton that way.
And there were the Reagan Democrats.

Anyway, with the labels used by today's right-wingers, Reagan would be labeled a socialist.

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Originally posted by moon1969
And there were the Reagan Democrats.

Anyway, with the labels used by today's right-wingers, Reagan would be labeled a socialist.
The Reagan Democrats weren't conservative. They were just dumb.

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Originally posted by Kunsoo
The Reagan Democrats weren't conservative. They were just dumb.
Clinton helped get them back.

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Originally posted by moon1969
Clinton helped get them back.
Yeah, but I wouldn't count on them. Their children could be languishing in property, but many of them will vote to deny those damned "welfare people" at all costs.

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Originally posted by Kunsoo
Yeah, but I wouldn't count on them. Their children could be languishing in property, but many of them will vote to deny those damned "welfare people" at all costs.
I know. Driving an old beat-up truck (with the W sticker) and struggling to make their monthly trailer house payment, but they pull the Republican lever in the voting booth. The insanity. Talk about voting against your interests.

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Originally posted by Kunsoo
He did some of it. He slipped in the horrible no-strings-attached bailout plan just as he was leaving, and now Obama's tagged for the blame. But his policies are well the the right of Reagan's, which were well to the right of Nixon's, which were well to the right of Eisenhauer. You have to go back to Herbert Hoover for more conservative policies.
To be fair, Obama voted for that "horrible no-strings-attached bailout plan" so he must rightly share some of the blame.

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