Go back
COVID cases surge in Great Lakes, Coldest parts of Northeast

COVID cases surge in Great Lakes, Coldest parts of Northeast

Debates

sh76
Civis Americanus Sum

New York

Joined
26 Dec 07
Moves
17585
Clock
18 Nov 21

https://covidestim.org/

Minnesota. Wisconsin. Michigan. Vermont. New Hampshire. Upstate New York.

What do these places have in common, aside from that they're all surging now in COVID cases?

I'll give you a hint. It's not that they all brought in Ron DeSantis to consult on COVID policy.

MB

Joined
07 Dec 05
Moves
22641
Clock
18 Nov 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

Was there a correlation between cold weather and an increase in covid cases in the southern hemisphere of the world during their coldest months?

mchill
Cryptic

Behind the scenes

Joined
27 Jun 16
Moves
3283
Clock
18 Nov 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

@sh76 said
https://covidestim.org/

Minnesota. Wisconsin. Michigan. Vermont. New Hampshire. Upstate New York.

What do these places have in common, aside from that they're all surging now in COVID cases?

I'll give you a hint. It's not that they all brought in Ron DeSantis to consult on COVID policy.
Having a state by state patchwork of differing guidelines isn't helping things.

no1marauder
Naturally Right

Somewhere Else

Joined
22 Jun 04
Moves
42677
Clock
18 Nov 21

@sh76 said
https://covidestim.org/

Minnesota. Wisconsin. Michigan. Vermont. New Hampshire. Upstate New York.

What do these places have in common, aside from that they're all surging now in COVID cases?

I'll give you a hint. It's not that they all brought in Ron DeSantis to consult on COVID policy.
Will any of them have 20,000 people die of COVID19 in two months like Florida did this August-September?

sh76
Civis Americanus Sum

New York

Joined
26 Dec 07
Moves
17585
Clock
18 Nov 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

@mchill said
Having a state by state patchwork of differing guidelines isn't helping things.
It probably doesn't hurt much either. (As far as COVID goes; it hurts plenty in other areas.)

sh76
Civis Americanus Sum

New York

Joined
26 Dec 07
Moves
17585
Clock
18 Nov 21
1 edit

@no1marauder said
Will any of them have 20,000 people die of COVID19 in two months like Florida did this August-September?
I assume you mean adjusted per capita.

Most unlikely, since their vax rates (including boosters, which will be approved for everyone soon) are much higher than FL was in August and their populations are younger.

sh76
Civis Americanus Sum

New York

Joined
26 Dec 07
Moves
17585
Clock
18 Nov 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

@metal-brain said
Was there a correlation between cold weather and an increase in covid cases in the southern hemisphere of the world during their coldest months?
I don't know. Do you?

no1marauder
Naturally Right

Somewhere Else

Joined
22 Jun 04
Moves
42677
Clock
18 Nov 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

@sh76 said
I assume you mean adjusted per capita.

Most unlikely, since their vax rates (including boosters, which will be approved for everyone soon) are much higher than FL was in August and their populations are younger.
Adjust it per capita and exclude deaths over 65 if you like.

Contenchess
Contentious

Joined
01 Sep 21
Moves
14125
Clock
18 Nov 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

@sh76

Well I live in the Great Lakes area and we have had a lot of rain considering it is the Fall season.

More rain now than all spring.

Maybe moisture in the air can carry covid?

If Florida saw 20,000 deaths during August/September maybe that was because the humidity caused moisture in the air which caused more people to get infected.

I'm just guessing...I don't know anything.

What I do know is my area ...which is near 2 great lakes has had a very wet Fall season and covid cases are rising.

sh76
Civis Americanus Sum

New York

Joined
26 Dec 07
Moves
17585
Clock
18 Nov 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

@no1marauder said
Adjust it per capita and exclude deaths over 65 if you like.
You'd also need to adjust for vaccination/booster level (at the time, not now) and available therapeutics (the emergence of Fluvoxamine and the pending approvals of molnupiravir and Paxlovid).

sh76
Civis Americanus Sum

New York

Joined
26 Dec 07
Moves
17585
Clock
18 Nov 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

@contenchess said
@sh76

Well I live in the Great Lakes area and we have had a lot of rain considering it is the Fall season.

More rain now than all spring.

Maybe moisture in the air can carry covid?

If Florida saw 20,000 deaths during August/September maybe that was because the humidity caused moisture in the air which caused more people to get infected.

I'm just guessing... ...[text shortened]... is my area ...which is near 2 great lakes has had a very wet Fall season and covid cases are rising.
Since the same areas had Fall spikes last year, I'd say the simpler explanation is simply that winter comes earlier to these places.

no1marauder
Naturally Right

Somewhere Else

Joined
22 Jun 04
Moves
42677
Clock
18 Nov 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

@sh76 said
You'd also need to adjust for vaccination/booster level (at the time, not now) and available therapeutics (the emergence of Fluvoxamine and the pending approvals of molnupiravir and Paxlovid).
DeSantis has followed policies that discourage vaccination, so why should the fact such policies have succeeded be ignored to favor him?

Contenchess
Contentious

Joined
01 Sep 21
Moves
14125
Clock
18 Nov 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

@sh76 said
Since the same areas had Fall spikes last year, I'd say the simpler explanation is simply that winter comes earlier to these places.
Ya I guess you're right 🤔

sh76
Civis Americanus Sum

New York

Joined
26 Dec 07
Moves
17585
Clock
18 Nov 21
1 edit

@no1marauder said
DeSantis has followed policies that discourage vaccination, so why should the fact such policies have succeeded be ignored to favor him?
"Discourage" vaccination or discouraging forced vaccination? I don't consider those the same things.

As far as I know, DeSantis has always been encouraging of vaccination. But if anyone can find a quote where DeSantis discouraged people from vaxxing I'll stand corrected.

no1marauder
Naturally Right

Somewhere Else

Joined
22 Jun 04
Moves
42677
Clock
18 Nov 21
1 edit

@sh76 said
"Discourage" vaccination or discouraging forced vaccination? I don't consider those the same things.

As far as I know, DeSantis has always been encouraging of vaccination. But if anyone can find a quote where DeSantis discouraged people from vaxxing I'll stand corrected.
Banning private businesses from requiring their employees be vaccinated is "discouraging vaccination."

It has the practical effect of meaning less people get vaccinated as you and DeSantis well know.

Cookies help us deliver our Services. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Learn More.