@sh76 saidHaving a state by state patchwork of differing guidelines isn't helping things.
https://covidestim.org/
Minnesota. Wisconsin. Michigan. Vermont. New Hampshire. Upstate New York.
What do these places have in common, aside from that they're all surging now in COVID cases?
I'll give you a hint. It's not that they all brought in Ron DeSantis to consult on COVID policy.
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@sh76 saidWill any of them have 20,000 people die of COVID19 in two months like Florida did this August-September?
https://covidestim.org/
Minnesota. Wisconsin. Michigan. Vermont. New Hampshire. Upstate New York.
What do these places have in common, aside from that they're all surging now in COVID cases?
I'll give you a hint. It's not that they all brought in Ron DeSantis to consult on COVID policy.
@no1marauder saidI assume you mean adjusted per capita.
Will any of them have 20,000 people die of COVID19 in two months like Florida did this August-September?
Most unlikely, since their vax rates (including boosters, which will be approved for everyone soon) are much higher than FL was in August and their populations are younger.
@metal-brain saidI don't know. Do you?
Was there a correlation between cold weather and an increase in covid cases in the southern hemisphere of the world during their coldest months?
@sh76 saidAdjust it per capita and exclude deaths over 65 if you like.
I assume you mean adjusted per capita.
Most unlikely, since their vax rates (including boosters, which will be approved for everyone soon) are much higher than FL was in August and their populations are younger.
@sh76
Well I live in the Great Lakes area and we have had a lot of rain considering it is the Fall season.
More rain now than all spring.
Maybe moisture in the air can carry covid?
If Florida saw 20,000 deaths during August/September maybe that was because the humidity caused moisture in the air which caused more people to get infected.
I'm just guessing...I don't know anything.
What I do know is my area ...which is near 2 great lakes has had a very wet Fall season and covid cases are rising.
@no1marauder saidYou'd also need to adjust for vaccination/booster level (at the time, not now) and available therapeutics (the emergence of Fluvoxamine and the pending approvals of molnupiravir and Paxlovid).
Adjust it per capita and exclude deaths over 65 if you like.
@contenchess saidSince the same areas had Fall spikes last year, I'd say the simpler explanation is simply that winter comes earlier to these places.
@sh76
Well I live in the Great Lakes area and we have had a lot of rain considering it is the Fall season.
More rain now than all spring.
Maybe moisture in the air can carry covid?
If Florida saw 20,000 deaths during August/September maybe that was because the humidity caused moisture in the air which caused more people to get infected.
I'm just guessing... ...[text shortened]... is my area ...which is near 2 great lakes has had a very wet Fall season and covid cases are rising.
@sh76 saidDeSantis has followed policies that discourage vaccination, so why should the fact such policies have succeeded be ignored to favor him?
You'd also need to adjust for vaccination/booster level (at the time, not now) and available therapeutics (the emergence of Fluvoxamine and the pending approvals of molnupiravir and Paxlovid).
@sh76 saidYa I guess you're right 🤔
Since the same areas had Fall spikes last year, I'd say the simpler explanation is simply that winter comes earlier to these places.
@no1marauder said"Discourage" vaccination or discouraging forced vaccination? I don't consider those the same things.
DeSantis has followed policies that discourage vaccination, so why should the fact such policies have succeeded be ignored to favor him?
As far as I know, DeSantis has always been encouraging of vaccination. But if anyone can find a quote where DeSantis discouraged people from vaxxing I'll stand corrected.
@sh76 saidBanning private businesses from requiring their employees be vaccinated is "discouraging vaccination."
"Discourage" vaccination or discouraging forced vaccination? I don't consider those the same things.
As far as I know, DeSantis has always been encouraging of vaccination. But if anyone can find a quote where DeSantis discouraged people from vaxxing I'll stand corrected.
It has the practical effect of meaning less people get vaccinated as you and DeSantis well know.