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@Zahlanzi saidYou silly goose, the issue is set out above, Sue says 'Educating ALL of our citizens SHOULD be on everyone's agenda'". I'm just the messenger here.
"Your response?"
that you're dumb and i have finite patience to keep explaining to an idiot or a troll the same thing again and again.
at this point i am just pointing out when you say some new dumb crap. calling marxism everything under the sun is not new, it's just your dumbassery
So, I read that, and responded that this would be a tenet of communism. It would, so I am, again, just the messenger.
Then she wrote that she was not talking about communism. ( I assume that that was her 'out' ,,y'all do a lot of outs)
So, my next friendly text said that tenets of capitalism would not include my paying the tuition of my neighbor's child. A true statement. This is an independent society, with some universal voted obvious entitlements.
I followed with a post that people with low incomes are NOT required to pay into college tuitions for others, but that there was an effort for taxpayers to do so, which of course is, for lack of a better word, communism-based.
Then you, go off the handle without having digested these 3 posts, and you say lower-income should not pay for teacher (elementary) school supplies, a curious non-sequitur. And, you add to that that repubs do not want an educated population,,,,,Z, you say it like it is a fact! which it is not ..ALL of my comments are fact....but off you go.
THEN, THEN< to cap it off.....You post here that "( I )am dumb and you have no patience with my posts".
HELP ME EVERYBODY!!!!!!
My Marx comments are not everything under the sun. To wit, my comments above speak to people paying for __________(fill in blank) of other people, which is, those w ability pay for those with needs.
Why in the world can you libs not own-up to that?
This is prob the most often-asked question on theForum.
Never answered.
@Zahlanzi saidAnd Trump is lapping it up. You want a great cabinet job, suck up to Trump, call him the greatest president in US history, better than ALL of them put together.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HcE7DawqtcA
Three topics, this thread is about the first one.
A clip of Trump's cabinet meeting in which a bunch of aspiring porn stars take turns suking his tiny pp.
As a commenter said, this amount of groveling would make Kim Jong Un blush
@sonhouse saidBiden lapped up ice cream, a true child. I lap up a corona after golf, we all have some lap stuff. Yours? January 6 meets Epstein!
And Trump is lapping it up. You want a great cabinet job, suck up to Trump, call him the greatest president in US history, better than ALL of them put together.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou completely ignore the FACT that Trump LOVES adoring sycophants fawning over him calling him the best POTUS ever and the like, that is EXACTLY how you get through to Trump, suck up to him just like the kinghood he wants so desperately, for one thing to stop any further indictments and arrests which may come down the pike when (and IF) Trump ever leaves office, he may feel so strongly about making sure he IS in fact a dictator, he needs that to stay out of legal difficulties.
Biden lapped up ice cream, a true child. I lap up a corona after golf, we all have some lap stuff. Yours? January 6 meets Epstein!
@AverageJoe1 said"'Educating ALL of our citizens SHOULD be on everyone's agenda'"
You silly goose, the issue is set out above, Sue says 'Educating ALL of our citizens SHOULD be on everyone's agenda'". I'm just the messenger here.
So, I read that, and responded that this would be a tenet of communism. It would, so I am, again, just the messenger.
Then she wrote that she was not talking about communism. ( I assume that that was her 'out' ,,y ...[text shortened]... here that "( I )am dumb and you have no patience with my posts".
HELP ME EVERYBODY!!!!!!
that's correct. an educated population benefits everyone. a poorly educated population benefits the GOP and Trump
" So, I read that, and responded that this would be a tenet of communism"
My point about the poorly educated is proven
"Then she wrote that she was not talking about communism."
She isn't. Nobody except you and some young hippies on the internet is. Nobody wants communism. Nobody is praising communism. You just use it as a scare tactic because you;re dumb and you think all of us are dumb enough to fall for it. We are not your redneck friends at whom Fox news keeps screaming communism and they piss their pants. We actually read.
" So, my next friendly text said that tenets of capitalism would not include my paying the tuition of my neighbor's child. A true statement"
I agree with that. Capitalism doesn't want to pay for the education of the citizens. It only needs a few smart ones, lots of dumb ones which can always be replaced by automation.
" I followed with a post that people with low incomes are NOT required to pay into college tuitions for others,"
You are correct. We should tax people with high, very high, preposterous, obscene and expecially downright evil incomes.
Taxing bezos and musk a few percentages more would pretty much pay for college for the entire country
"Then you, go off the handle without having digested these 3 posts, and you say lower-income should not pay for teacher (elementary) school supplies, a curious non-sequitur."
It responded to your "why must a family of 30k a year pay for education" idiocy. It shouldn't. The rich should be taxed for education instead.
"And, you add to that that repubs do not want an educated population,,,,,Z, you say it like it is a fact!"
It is a fact. An educated population doesn't vote for Trump.
""( I )am dumb and you have no patience with my posts"."
That is correct. Wow you got another thing right. Good for your little buddy.
"HELP ME EVERYBODY!!!!!!"
Nobody can help a dumb cult member. They must be willing to be helped
@sonhouse saidYou are simply saying that Trump is comfortable in the limelight, he loves the attention, he appreciates being recognized for pulling off great deals for America, like, the Abraham Accords and moving forward, all the way to No Tip Tax! And, bringing NATO to heal. Talk about getting respect for our country. Thanks, DT.
You completely ignore the FACT that Trump LOVES adoring sycophants fawning over him calling him the best POTUS ever and the like, that is EXACTLY how you get through to Trump, suck up to him just like the kinghood he wants so desperately, for one thing to stop any further indictments and arrests which may come down the pike when (and IF) Trump ever leaves office, he may feel ...[text shortened]... trongly about making sure he IS in fact a dictator, he needs that to stay out of legal difficulties.
How can you fault him for that?
@Zahlanzi saidYes, an education program is a hallmark of great countries. We agree!
"'Educating ALL of our citizens SHOULD be on everyone's agenda'"
that's correct. an educated population benefits everyone. a poorly educated population benefits the GOP and Trump
" So, I read that, and responded that this would be a tenet of communism"
My point about the poorly educated is proven
"Then she wrote that she was not talking about communism."
She isn't. ...[text shortened]...
"HELP ME EVERYBODY!!!!!!"
Nobody can help a dumb cult member. They must be willing to be helped
Next, you are exactly right, no one, except for Mamdani, praises communism, You are ON it. I however do not 'use it' as a scare tactic, I just report its dangers, such as the policies of Mamdani. Can you IMAGINE spreading the wealth? You must agree with me that that is not a good idea. Do you agree? Yes or no?
Next you agree in effect that Biden was wrong, and liberals were wrong, to have taxpayer money used to pay personal oans that were taken out by college students.
YOu ae correct that high earners should pay more in taxes. The USA is way ahead in that category
The U.S. has a progressive federal income tax system with seven tax brackets for 2025: 10%, 12%, 22%, 24%, 32%, 35%, and 37%.
The rate in Spain is almost 50%! Some countries are much higher, I think in North Africa. Wow. I think that USA is just about right, and fits your definition of fairness, with seven diff brackets. AND, 50% of us do not even PAY taxes. A cool country. So, we agree!!! I am glad that you are for progressive tax system....like the USA system. Does Romania follow the progessive line of reasoning, which you support? Or is it the same rate for the poor as it is for the rich???
Next, my comment that the rich pay more covers your saying that they should pay/be taxed more for cost of education. Those 50% I mention above pay nothing. We Agree!!!
How could you say an educated population, of which I am one, does not vote for Trump? Don't get you there.
@AverageJoe1 said" you are exactly right, no one, except for Mamdani, praises communism, "
Yes, an education program is a hallmark of great countries. We agree!
Next, you are exactly right, no one, except for Mamdani, praises communism, You are ON it. I however do not 'use it' as a scare tactic, I just report its dangers, such as the policies of Mamdani. Can you IMAGINE spreading the wealth? You must agree with me that that is not a good idea. Do you ag ...[text shortened]... ld you say an educated population, of which I am one, does not vote for Trump? Don't get you there.
hah, what an idiot
"Next you agree in effect that Biden was wrong, and liberals were wrong, to have taxpayer money used to pay personal oans that were taken out by college students."
No, that was a grea idea. If corporate bailout can be given then student college loans, in a country that allows them to blow out of proportions, are a way more worthy candidate for debt relief
"The U.S. has a progressive federal income tax system with seven tax brackets for 2025: 10%, 12%, 22%, 24%, 32%, 35%, and 37%. "
Too low, especially considering all the loopholes present
"I am glad that you are for progressive tax system....like the USA system."
I never advocated for a flat tax rate.
"The rate in Spain is almost 50%!"
And for that they get healthcare, education, clean cities, decent retirement living for their citizens and a long list of other benefits\
"How could you say an educated population, of which I am one"
You??? Bwhahahahahahahahahaha. No pumpkin, not you. There are educated people who would vote for Trump simply because they want to make more money and don't care how many people get hurt in the process. The vast majority of trump voters are ignorant, dumb poors who don't understand they aren't in the group that would make more money.
"Does Romania follow the progessive line of reasoning, which you support?"
Why do you ask, you want to follow Romania as example?
@Zahlanzi saidMay I critique?
" you are exactly right, no one, except for Mamdani, praises communism, "
hah, what an idiot
"Next you agree in effect that Biden was wrong, and liberals were wrong, to have taxpayer money used to pay personal oans that were taken out by college students."
No, that was a grea idea. If corporate bailout can be given then student college loans, in a country that allows th ...[text shortened]... ssive line of reasoning, which you support?"
Why do you ask, you want to follow Romania as example?
Above you agree that capitalism does not include my paying the tuition of my neighbor's child. Zahlanzi, but, here you say that it was a 'great idea', Biden's attempt to pay the loans. We could discuss and compare corp bailouts all day, ala Sonhouse gambit, but fact remains that you DO want to have people pool their money (taxes) to pay the debts of others. Yes, we pay into entitlement programs, for the poor, etc, but you say....pay debts of others. I would love to see you on debate stage justifying that. You sure do not do it here.
By what an idiot, are saying I am the idiot? If so, you imply that he does not praise communism. Can you not make one solid believable statement? Boring.
Next, I clearly answer your premise about rich should pay more in taxes. ......................................... Our rich pay 37%, our low earners 10%. Our rich DO pay more. I looked up Romania. Y'all have NO progressive tax, your Rich Pay No More Than The Average Payer. What a loser country.....WE do what yopu want, but your own country does not have rich pay more. oooohhhhhh Zhlanzi... How can you stand it? The tax problem, and the fact you are defeated on this point.
Why did you type that you never advocate flat tax? Your point? What you advocate are not the facts on the table. Don't get that statement. I advocate the Fair Tax, myself, but that is not the issue. AvJoe likes to stay on an issue.
And you miss the Spain issue, too. We pay 37%, they pay 50%. I prove that our tax program is satisfactory, better than others . YOU WRITE BACK what Spain uses the tax for. That IS Not the issue. Pitiful. You are flirting with Sonhouse/Suzianne territory.
Then, in your usual patter, Sonhouse, said that the educated population does not vote for Trump. Then you here say "there are educated people who would vote for Trump for blah blah blah whatever reason". Your posts have a lot to be desired, extemely bland and difficult, there is no way to respond to them..
Why do I ask if you follow progressive line (i assume about tax formula)? Because I knew when I asked it that Romania does not, just wanted to see your unabashed answer which of course is quite disingenuous,,,,,,,and , uhhh, not an answer.
@AverageJoe1 saidI fault him for his push to dictatorship BESIDES being incredibly STUPID.
You are simply saying that Trump is comfortable in the limelight, he loves the attention, he appreciates being recognized for pulling off great deals for America, like, the Abraham Accords and moving forward, all the way to No Tip Tax! And, bringing NATO to heal. Talk about getting respect for our country. Thanks, DT.
How can you fault him for that?
Tariffs made the depression of the 1930's a LOT worse but Trump is WAY to stupid to ever even CONSIDER looking at proven historical data about what happens when you willy nilly run up tariffs around the world.
For one thing, I don't suppose you noticed MODI from India holding hands with Putin?
A country with a BILLION people now switching sides to China and Russia.
And more to come.
America is going to learn the hard way AGAIN with the incredibly incompetent so called leadership of Trump.
@sonhouse saidYou have spoken. But did not some presidents, like Bush, Obama or Biden, sit on their hands while the tariff got so out of balance. Do you think we should have let them stay out of balance for the next hundred years. My questions are so simple.
I fault him for his push to dictatorship BESIDES being incredibly STUPID.
Tariffs made the depression of the 1930's a LOT worse but Trump is WAY to stupid to ever even CONSIDER looking at proven historical data about what happens when you willy nilly run up tariffs around the world.
For one thing, I don't suppose you noticed MODI from India holding hands with Putin?
A co ...[text shortened]... is going to learn the hard way AGAIN with the incredibly incompetent so called leadership of Trump.
@AverageJoe1 saidAnd you REFUSE to see any HINT of problems with tariff wars. Do you think it is just COINCIDENCE that the leader of India MODI is now LITERALLY holding hands with PUTIN?
You have spoken. But did not some presidents, like Bush, Obama or Biden, sit on their hands while the tariff got so out of balance. Do you think we should have let them stay out of balance for the next hundred years. My questions are so simple.
So a trading partner in a country of LITERALLY ONE BILLION PEOPLE are now switching sides to China and Russia.
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT the direct consequence of Trump's tariff wars.
Smooth moooove and Trump probably doesn't even KNOW about that switch because he is so fking ARROGANT he thinks he is LITERALLY the smarted person on the planet.
@sonhouse saidNegotiations are underway appreciation way don’t you know. Did you expect a president like this to sit by and watch tariffs taking advantage of our country? This is proof that he loves our country, because he is going to bat for us to level the playing field about tariffs. It is quite astounding That you Democrats and liberals find fault with what he is doing with tariffs. Wait and see. The court will approve the tariffs and he will get even better at it. The prediction by average show.
And you REFUSE to see any HINT of problems with tariff wars. Do you think it is just COINCIDENCE that the leader of India MODI is now LITERALLY holding hands with PUTIN?
So a trading partner in a country of LITERALLY ONE BILLION PEOPLE are now switching sides to China and Russia.
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT the direct consequence of Trump's tariff wars.
Smooth moooove and Trump ...[text shortened]... t switch because he is so fking ARROGANT he thinks he is LITERALLY the smarted person on the planet.
@AverageJoe1 saidSo you think NO PROBLEM losing a trading partner of ONE BILLION PEOPLE.
Negotiations are underway appreciation way don’t you know. Did you expect a president like this to sit by and watch tariffs taking advantage of our country? This is proof that he loves our country, because he is going to bat for us to level the playing field about tariffs. It is quite astounding That you Democrats and liberals find fault with what he is doing with tariffs ...[text shortened]... he court will approve the tariffs and he will get even better at it. The prediction by average show.
BTW, that is just the START of the US becoming a pariah in the view of the world.
And you continue to think that makes Trump SO BRILLIANT, a GENIUS.
When that would be the furthest from the truth.
That is, that Trump is a LITERAL traitor.
Giving EVERYTHING Putin wants including saying SURE, take 30% of Ukraine, all for "peace".
Not understanding in the SLIGHTEST Putin is NOT going to be satisfied just getting 30% of Ukraine, he will next go after some other country even weaker than Ukraine like Moldova.
When Putin invades a second country in his goal to rebuild the Soviet empire, don't come whining to me about how wrong you were to support a literal TRAITOR as POTUS.