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Defending our homes, right or wrong?

Defending our homes, right or wrong?

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As we know a farmer in England was put in prison for a long time because he shot and killed a young man who was trying burgle his house. However we have questions...

1) Should we have the right to defend our homes by whatever meens nessary?

2) Is there a lack of police efficency?

3) Is it ok to kill someone if it is the only way to stop them from commiting a mild crime(eg stealing)?

4) Why do we feel the need to invade someones house?

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Originally posted by Brother Edwin
As we know a farmer in England was put in prison for a long time because he shot and killed a young man who was trying burgle his house. However we have questions...

1) Should we have the right to defend our homes by whatever meens nessary?

2) Is there a lack of police efficency?

3) Is it ok to kill someone if it is the only way to stop them ...[text shortened]... rom commiting a mild crime(eg stealing)?

4) Why do we feel the need to invade someones house?
1, No, only by reasonable force.
2, Yes, they are also bound by arcane laws.
3, No it is not okay to kill somebody. Stealing is not a "mild" crime.
4, Who is "we"? I do not feel the need to invade anyone's home, or are you referring to criminals?

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1) Should we have the right to defend our homes by whatever meens nessary?

2) Is there a lack of police efficency?

3) Is it ok to kill someone if it is the only way to stop them from commiting a mild crime(eg stealing)?

4) Why do we feel the need to invade someones house?[/b]
to answer quickly, IMHO:

1) 'by whatever means necessary' is a very scarey term that people use far too readily. It can encompass anything, including shooting anyone who comes within 100 meters of my house, just in case they want to do me harm, so the easy abswer is "no". Do we instead need to define what 'acceptable' method and means are.

2) as long as any crime happens, and especially if it goes unpunished, there is a lack of police efficiency. There will always be crime, so yes the police aren't 100% efficient; maybe the question should be how efficient is good enough?

3) I don't get the question. There are always other ways to stop people from commiting crimes apart from killing them. I don't agree with killing people for major crimes let alone minor ones - it's very final leaving no room for retrial, very costly and an ineffeicient deterant.

4) simple - becuase they have soething in the house that we want (money, car keys, sexy wife...). Invading someones house is only a means to getting at something in it.

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It is generaly better to kill intruders just in case they are murdurers.

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Originally posted by Brother Edwin
It is generaly better to kill intruders just in case they are murdurers.
Brilliant! 🙂

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If someone breaks into your home, while it is occupied, they should be killed. That would be enough of a threat to justify deadly force because if you wait until you or your family are physically in mortal danger, it will probably be too late.

You look out your window and someone is stealing your car, to me that isn't a capital offense and I would just call the cops.

If there is a reasonable threat of physical danger, I believe it is a case of self-defense and completely justified. I don't believe in a deadly response to a material crime, but a reasonable chance of a violent crime justifies a deadly response.

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Why not just shoot the intruder in the legs?

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Originally posted by Dissident Dan
Why not just shoot the intruder in the legs?
That may or may not stop him. He may also be armed and shoot back. I put the welfare of my family above the intruder to a level that "shoot first, ask questions later" applies.

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Originally posted by knapperja
That may or may not stop him. He may also be armed and shoot back. I put the welfare of my family above the intruder to a level that "shoot first, ask questions later" applies.
How about you see if he's armed, shoot the gun out of his hand if necessary, and shoot him in the legs then?

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Originally posted by CaptainDangerous
How about you see if he's armed, shoot the gun out of his hand if necessary, and shoot him in the legs then?
Captain 'somewhat' Dangerous........... I was expecting a great post.

If you kill a guy in your yard here in the US you are supposed to drag them inside. If you shot him in the back, you are supposed to put 2 in his chest.

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
Captain 'somewhat' Dangerous........... I was expecting a great post.

If you kill a guy in your yard here in the US you are supposed to drag them inside. If you shot him in the back, you are supposed to put 2 in his chest.

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You actually need to carry him in, not drag him because the drag marks might give it away.

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
Captain 'somewhat' Dangerous........... I was expecting a great post.

If you kill a guy in your yard here in the US you are supposed to drag them inside. If you shot him in the back, you are supposed to put 2 in his chest.

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Sorry, I was feeling facetious...

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Originally posted by CaptainDangerous
Sorry, I was feeling facetious...
Russ needs a sarcasm smiley face!!!

Glad to see your danger level back up.

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😉

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I value my possesions over the life of a intruder.
If he/she ignores the law then I dont see why I have to obey it.