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  1. 14 Dec '12 04:24 / 1 edit
    I've decided that the democrat party is superior to the GOP. After all, at least the democrats practice what the preach, which is that big government is the cure for all our ills. Instead, the GOP has the unenviable task of pretending to fight the beast they serve.

    After Obama gets done with Boehner, the House will go democrat in 2014 and Hillary will win in 2016.

    Enjoy America!!
  2. 14 Dec '12 14:35
    The reason the democrat party is more successful on average is that the GOP has nothing really to offer America. That is, they are not and never have been a conservative party. That is why you never hear them articulate conservative principles and why they have no appeal around the country. All they are is a created Freddie Mac to counter the Fannie Mae monopoly type of organization, to give the appearence of competition.

    For clarity, I would like to see them just declare a Soviet style one party system.
  3. Subscriber KingDavid403
    King David
    14 Dec '12 14:39
    Originally posted by whodey
    The reason the democrat party is more successful on average is that the GOP has nothing really to offer America. That is, they are not and never have been a conservative party. That is why you never hear them articulate conservative principles and why they have no appeal around the country. All they are is a created Freddie Mac to counter the Fannie Mae m ...[text shortened]... petition.

    For clarity, I would like to see them just declare a Soviet style one party system.
    It's funny watching you talk with yourself.
  4. 14 Dec '12 14:45
    Originally posted by KingDavid403
    It's funny watching you talk with yourself.
    Don't interrupt him! It's rude.
  5. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    14 Dec '12 15:02
    Originally posted by whodey
    For clarity, I would like to see them just declare a Soviet style one party system.
    Have you ever thought about starting a blog, whodey?
  6. 14 Dec '12 16:42
    Originally posted by whodey
    The reason the democrat party is more successful on average is that the GOP has nothing really to offer America. That is, they are not and never have been a conservative party. That is why you never hear them articulate conservative principles and why they have no appeal around the country. All they are is a created Freddie Mac to counter the Fannie Mae m ...[text shortened]... petition.

    For clarity, I would like to see them just declare a Soviet style one party system.
    I'm with ya there whoddster. Doesn't take a degree to figure out that people want the free stuff the democrats are willing to give. Just a power play really. The GOP isn't much better. Both parties are willing to ruin the economy to steal from us. Just a little reach around there for ya.
  7. 14 Dec '12 17:07
    Originally posted by whodey
    The reason the democrat party is more successful on average is that the GOP has nothing really to offer America. That is, they are not and never have been a conservative party. That is why you never hear them articulate conservative principles and why they have no appeal around the country. All they are is a created Freddie Mac to counter the Fannie Mae m ...[text shortened]... petition.

    For clarity, I would like to see them just declare a Soviet style one party system.
    That would never do. We must have the illusion of choice, we need the opiate for the masses, delivered to them daily by the press.
  8. Standard member Soothfast
    0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,
    14 Dec '12 21:49
    Originally posted by Eladar
    That would never do. We must have the illusion of choice, we need the opiate for the masses, delivered to them daily by the press.
    I've said in the past that the two-party system in the U.S. (and most Western democracies) is illusory. The Democrats and Republicans present two faces of the same party: the Capitalist Party. The only difference is that Democrats better recognize that capitalism has innate flaws which require government intervention to alleviate. Without the balm of "welfare state" policies the whole system would rapidly spin out of control in an explosion of human exploitation and violent revolution.
  9. 15 Dec '12 13:44
    Originally posted by FMF
    Have you ever thought about starting a blog, whodey?
    No.
  10. 15 Dec '12 13:45
    Originally posted by Soothfast
    I've said in the past that the two-party system in the U.S. (and most Western democracies) is illusory. The Democrats and Republicans present two faces of the same party: the Capitalist Party. The only difference is that Democrats better recognize that capitalism has innate flaws which require government intervention to alleviate. Without the balm of " ...[text shortened]... uld rapidly spin out of control in an explosion of human exploitation and violent revolution.
    So we agree?

    Sort of.

    I suppose you can demonize them as "capitalists", and the right can demonize them as "socialists", but when it comes right down to it the proper term is "statist".
  11. 15 Dec '12 14:40
    I submit that now is the time for the Libertarian party to attempt to gain power. Just wait for Obama to finish off Boehner in 2014, and Hillary to complete the job in 2016, and let the GOP go way of the Dodo. Then sit back and wait for another "crisis" or tragedy and capitalize just like how Obama obtained power in 2008.
  12. 15 Dec '12 15:04
    Originally posted by Soothfast
    I've said in the past that the two-party system in the U.S. (and most Western democracies) is illusory. The Democrats and Republicans present two faces of the same party: the Capitalist Party. The only difference is that Democrats better recognize that capitalism has innate flaws which require government intervention to alleviate. Without the balm of " ...[text shortened]... uld rapidly spin out of control in an explosion of human exploitation and violent revolution.
    Well said - and right on.
  13. 15 Dec '12 17:05
    Originally posted by kbear1k
    Well said - and right on.
    Can a two party coexist if there is much difference between them? If there is much difference, the other would always be labelled the obstructionist.