Do As I Say 2.0 Obama Style

@no1marauder said
(Shrug) Sure Eldy.

Did you research the fact that hospitalizations of children for COVID is spiking upward and/or that "At least 81 children in the U.S. died of Covid between March and July, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and many doctors warn that the situation is likely to get worse."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kids-sick-co ...[text shortened]... filling-children-s-hospitals-areas-seeing-n1276238

Play games with your kids' health if you want.

Be an a-hole if you like, but there are also plenty of anecdotes going around about fully vaxxed people dying as well.

If you think health 8 year olds are at substantial risk from COVID (more than, say, travelling long distances in cars or bicycling or skateboarding or going out in the winter during flu season), you're not paying attention.

I'm going to let my daughter live her life, thank you, and not be imprisoned by the panic-mongers.

@sh76 said
Be an a-hole if you like, but there are also plenty of anecdotes going around about fully vaxxed people dying as well.

If you think health 8 year olds are at substantial risk from COVID (more than, say, travelling long distances in cars or bicycling or skateboarding or going out in the winter during flu season), you're not paying attention.

I'm going to let my daughter live her life, thank you, and not be imprisoned by the panic-mongers.

I certainly hope that ends up great for her and the other people your irresponsible positions are endangering.

@eladar said
Either he supports a mask mandate or he does not. He needs to come out speaking against mask mandates.

I suppose you want to ignore John Kerry's hypocrisy as well.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/conservatives-hit-climate-envoy-john-kerry-for-allegedly-flying-private-plane-to-obama-s-birthday-party/ar-AAN3CE3


Cut back on green house gas, but I need my private plane. One rule for the ruling class while others gets another.

^^ Hits the nail on the head.

@sh76 said
Be an a-hole if you like, but there are also plenty of anecdotes going around about fully vaxxed people dying as well.

If you think health 8 year olds are at substantial risk from COVID (more than, say, travelling long distances in cars or bicycling or skateboarding or going out in the winter during flu season), you're not paying attention.

I'm going to let my daughter live her life, thank you, and not be imprisoned by the panic-mongers.

Tell me; what do you know that the American Academy of Pediatrics doesn't:

"The American Academy of Pediatrics released new Covid-19 guidance for schools on Monday that supports in-person learning and recommends universal masking in school of everyone over the age of 2, regardless of vaccination status"

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/20/health/school-mask-mandates-covid-19-cnn-analysis-wellness/index.html

"“As we start the 2021-’22 school year, a large portion of students are not eligible to be vaccinated and there are COVID variants that are more contagious. Because of this and because we want to have all students in school, the AAP advocates for all students, teachers and staff to wear masks while indoors in school,” she said.

In addition, schools may lack the resources to monitor vaccine status or enforce mask policies based on vaccination status.

Another benefit of universal masking is that it protects students and staff from other respiratory illnesses that would take time away from school, according to the guidance."

https://www.aappublications.org/news/2021/07/18/schools-071821

What a bunch of a-holes, huh?

@no1marauder said
Tell me; what do you know that the American Academy of Pediatrics doesn't:

"The American Academy of Pediatrics released new Covid-19 guidance for schools on Monday that supports in-person learning and recommends universal masking in school of everyone over the age of 2, regardless of vaccination status"

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/20/health/school-mask-mandates-cov ...[text shortened]... "

https://www.aappublications.org/news/2021/07/18/schools-071821

What a bunch of a-holes, huh?

Fauci, not a word about Obama, but Really upset about Sturgis IDaho motorcycle festival. Double standards abound. But, continue with superfluous dialogue.

@averagejoe1 said
Fauci, not a word about Obama, but Really upset about Sturgis IDaho motorcycle festival. Double standards abound. But, continue with superfluous dialogue.

Are you really dumb enough to believe that people who go to a motorcycle rally stay outdoors at a recommended social distance?

There were about 200 people at Obama's birthday party, all pre-screened for COVID19.

There will be over half million at Sturgis (which is in South Dakota, not Idaho) and probably most will be unvaccinated and take no precautions.

@no1marauder said
Tell me; what do you know that the American Academy of Pediatrics doesn't:

"The American Academy of Pediatrics released new Covid-19 guidance for schools on Monday that supports in-person learning and recommends universal masking in school of everyone over the age of 2, regardless of vaccination status"

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/20/health/school-mask-mandates-cov ...[text shortened]... "

https://www.aappublications.org/news/2021/07/18/schools-071821

What a bunch of a-holes, huh?

"Sure, eldy" was the a-hole part, but you knew that.

Did you catch the last paragraph of your quote? Mask to stop other respiratory illnesses. In other words, mask forever.

The CDC also recommends masking, and I think they're equally full of crap, so I'm not sure why I'd give any more deference to the AAP. Anyway, if your only goal is disease prevention, then sure. But if you're weighing benefits vs. drawbacks, like in real life, the drawbacks of forcing little children to wear uncomfortable masks that also interferes with their education and development, for 6-8 hours a day far outweighs whatever miniscule risk there is to them.

As for the teachers, those that care are vaccinated. Those that don't care don't care. If you're that terrified that you're going to be the 1 out of 100,000 that gets a serious breakthrough infection, then get another job. Sacrificing the interests of children to spare a few cowardly adults from miniscule risks is immoral.

@no1marauder said
Are you really dumb enough to believe that people who go to a motorcycle rally stay outdoors at a recommended social distance?

There were about 200 people at Obama's birthday party, all pre-screened for COVID19.

There will be over half million at Sturgis (which is in South Dakota, not Idaho) and probably most will be unvaccinated and take no precautions.

You r saying that flip.flop Fauci is saying not wearing masks in tight places is ok ? Hmmmm, another flop. You have s point but why not even COMMENT by Fauci on Obama, as the bstrd flaunts his ‘sophisticated’ jet setters unmasked. In your face, Marauder, And they sure as hell know what they are doing.
Sounds like a politician to me. Why do these government officials seem to have a right to impose rules on us, while they dance into the night and throw the rules back in our face? I’ll tell you why. It is the way socialists act, and the way they will act when y’all truly take over. This activity is a great example of Socialism. I’m not worried,myself, because I will be a socialist. But the people living under Socialism will suffer. There is arbitrary power.
Sorry, im trout fishing in Ketchum, the states run together.

@sh76 said
"Sure, eldy" was the a-hole part, but you knew that.

Did you catch the last paragraph of your quote? Mask to stop other respiratory illnesses. In other words, mask forever.

The CDC also recommends masking, and I think they're equally full of crap, so I'm not sure why I'd give any more deference to the AAP. Anyway, if your only goal is disease prevention, then sure. But if ...[text shortened]... acrificing the interests of children to spare a few cowardly adults from miniscule risks is immoral.

Again, the AAP is in a better position than you to assess the "benefits vs. drawbacks" of requiring children to wear masks during a deadly pandemic. They hardly ignored educational and development factors in the article (which I must assume you didn't read):

"“Remote-learning highlighted inequities in education, was detrimental to the educational attainment of students of all ages, and exacerbated the mental health crisis among children and adolescents,” according to the guidance."

You've constantly minimized the danger of COVID and exaggerated the consequences of reasonable protective measures for more than a year, so why would you stop now?

81 dead kids in a few months (how many fell to their death from skateboards in that time?) and thousands hospitalized suggest a bit more than a "miniscule" risk. And schools in the US suck so badly, that wearing a mask is hardly going to have the catastrophic consequences you allude to (but never really spell out).

@vivify said
He's wrong to still have this party. Case closed.

But this bash was planned as the CDC removed masked mandates for people who were vaccinated. Nothing hypocritical about that. Baseball stadiums had already started to go back to having thousands of people in them.

I'm guessing Obama's people tried to make sure only vaccinated guests and workers came.

@no1marauder said
Again, the AAP is in a better position than you to assess the "benefits vs. drawbacks" of requiring children to wear masks during a deadly pandemic. They hardly ignored educational and development factors in the article (which I must assume you didn't read):

"“Remote-learning highlighted inequities in education, was detrimental to the educational attainment of students ...[text shortened]... sk is hardly going to have the catastrophic consequences you allude to (but never really spell out).

“ Again, the AAP is in a better position than you to assess the "benefits vs. drawbacks" of requiring children to wear masks during a deadly pandemic. They hardly ignored educational and development factors in the article”

what is the science behind this? surely a study has been done…oh, but there hasnt been one has there?

@averagejoe1 said
Fauci, not a word about Obama, but Really upset about Sturgis IDaho motorcycle festival. Double standards abound. But, continue with superfluous dialogue.

exactly.

Fauci was so quick to point out maskless people at a Trump rally but never mentioned the Illegal Aliens
living in crammed living quaters, cages, at the border. Same thang

@earl-of-trumps said
exactly.

Fauci was so quick to point out maskless people at a Trump rally but never mentioned the Illegal Aliens
living in crammed living quaters, cages, at the border. Same thang

Speaking for Marauder, everyone else and myself, we all agree.

@earl-of-trumps said
exactly.

Fauci was so quick to point out maskless people at a Trump rally but never mentioned the Illegal Aliens
living in crammed living quaters, cages, at the border. Same thang

You right wingers oppose "catch and release" so what do you want done with them?

Please be specific.