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  1. Subscriberno1marauder
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    17 May '17 23:11
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/05/17/rod_rosenstein_names_robert_mueller_to_oversee_russia_investigation.html

    And it's ex-FBI Director Robert Mueller who is empowered to investigate "“any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump” as well as “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation".

    Interesting.
  2. SubscriberKingDavid403
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    17 May '17 23:24
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/05/17/rod_rosenstein_names_robert_mueller_to_oversee_russia_investigation.html

    And it's ex-FBI Director Robert Mueller who is empowered to investigate "“any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump” as well as “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation".

    Interesting.
    Hummm....
    "As special counsel, Mueller will be authorized to bring criminal charges if he believes they are warranted, though it’s worth noting, per this this explainer from the New York Times, that his authority is not absolute, and that he can still be fired or overruled."
    Not very independent is it?
  3. Subscriberno1marauder
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    17 May '17 23:25
    Originally posted by KingDavid403
    Hummm....
    [b]"As special counsel, Mueller will be authorized to bring criminal charges if he believes they are warranted, though it’s worth noting, per this this explainer from the New York Times, that his authority is not absolute, and that he can still be fired or overruled."

    Not very independent is it?[/b]
    There's no such thing at a Federal level as a prosecutor who can act wholly independently of the DOJ AFAIK.
  4. Subscriberno1marauder
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    17 May '17 23:301 edit
    Originally posted by KingDavid403
    Hummm....
    [b]"As special counsel, Mueller will be authorized to bring criminal charges if he believes they are warranted, though it’s worth noting, per this this explainer from the New York Times, that his authority is not absolute, and that he can still be fired or overruled."

    Not very independent is it?[/b]
    Mueller is pretty well respected; Obama asked him to serve two years beyond his 10 year term at FBI. The move has met with initial approval across the political spectrum including from Bernie Sanders:

    Robert Mueller’s appointment is a positive step. I am hopeful that he will help us get to the bottom of the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia.

    From Adam Schiff ranking Democrat on House Intelligence Committee:

    Appointment of special counsel is very positive. Mueller is a solid choice who will help reestablish public confidence in FBI investigation:
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    17 May '17 23:42
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Mueller is pretty well respected; Obama asked him to serve two years beyond his 10 year term at FBI. The move has met with initial approval across the political spectrum including from Bernie Sanders:

    Robert Mueller’s appointment is a positive step. I am hopeful that he will help us get to the bottom of the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia.

    From Ada ...[text shortened]... ive. Mueller is a solid choice who will help reestablish public confidence in FBI investigation:
    I agree. However, If Dump can just keep firing anyone that he does not agree with in the investigation against him, What is the point? I have nothing against Mueller either. My concern is that Dump can just keep firing those who are truthful in their investigation against him. That's all.
  6. Subscriberno1marauder
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    17 May '17 23:431 edit
    The President, of course, sees things a bit differently looking forward to this matter "concluding quickly" since an "investigation will confirm what we already know - there was no collusion between my campaign and any foreign entity". https://twitter.com/ABC/status/864985412787425280?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

    EDIT: I note that Trump's statement might be considered to be "lawyerly" as what Mueller will be investigating i.e. "“any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump” as well as “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation". is far broader than direct collusion between Trump's campaign and any "foreign entity".
  7. Subscriberno1marauder
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    17 May '17 23:44
    Originally posted by KingDavid403
    I agree. However, If Dump can just keep firing anyone that he does not agree with in the investigation against him, What is the point? I have nothing against Mueller either. My concern is that Dump can just keep firing those who are truthful in their investigation against him. That's all.
    Firing Mueller would be political suicide after the Comey disaster.
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    17 May '17 23:492 edits
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Firing Mueller would be political suicide after the Comey disaster.
    Well, we have watched dump commit political suicide about 10 times in the last six months. All his billionaire friends have him well covered big time. I hope you are correct.
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    18 May '17 02:071 edit
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Mueller is pretty well respected; Obama asked him to serve two years beyond his 10 year term at FBI. The move has met with initial approval across the political spectrum including from Bernie Sanders:

    Robert Mueller’s appointment is a positive step. I am hopeful that he will help us get to the bottom of the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia.

    From Ada ...[text shortened]... ive. Mueller is a solid choice who will help reestablish public confidence in FBI investigation:
    Well, this is good news. I fully expect that the next FBI director will be a Trump toady, so an independent investigator will take this on, regardless of if the director doesn't deem it "important enough" to investigate.
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