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  1. 25 Jul '11 00:23
    A push from a number of progressives deeply disappointed in Obama's constant cave-ins to Republicans and Blue Dogs.

    http://draftberniesanders2012.org/
  2. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    25 Jul '11 00:37
    Originally posted by Kunsoo
    A push from a number of progressives deeply disappointed in Obama's constant cave-ins to Republicans and Blue Dogs.

    http://draftberniesanders2012.org/
    A Jewish socialist for President of the United States.

    Yeah, that'll happen.
  3. 25 Jul '11 00:45
    Originally posted by sh76
    A Jewish socialist for President of the United States.

    Yeah, that'll happen.
    It's more about forcing some debate about Obama's penchant for punching the hippie.
  4. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    25 Jul '11 00:54
    Originally posted by Kunsoo
    It's more about forcing some debate about Obama's penchant for punching the hippie.
    I would like to see him run. Though I don't agree with his economic outlook, Sanders is an intelligent fellow with some ideas to bring to the table that deserve debate.

    I just wouldn't want him to win the Presidency.
  5. Standard member Soothfast
    0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,
    25 Jul '11 01:06
    Originally posted by sh76
    A Jewish socialist for President of the United States.

    Yeah, that'll happen.
    Oi! Why not?
  6. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    25 Jul '11 01:26
    Originally posted by Soothfast
    Oi! Why not?
    I would vote for Bernie Sanders for 'god' if the position opened up.
  7. Standard member Soothfast
    0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,
    25 Jul '11 01:28
    Originally posted by rwingett
    I would vote for Bernie Sanders for 'god' if the position opened up.
    It is my belief that the position is, in fact, vacant.
  8. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    25 Jul '11 01:33
    Originally posted by Soothfast
    It is my belief that the position is, in fact, vacant.
    Maybe god will remain Jewish this time.
  9. 25 Jul '11 07:16
    Originally posted by sh76
    I would like to see him run. Though I don't agree with his economic outlook, Sanders is an intelligent fellow with some ideas to bring to the table that deserve debate.

    I just wouldn't want him to win the Presidency.
    Well, I would actually have mixed feelings if I thought he could win, because I think his skills and politics are much more suited for the Senate. But if the country was at such a level of consciousness that he could possibly win, we'd be in much better shape regardless of who won.

    I just don't want to see Obama cruise to re-election without a challenge from the left. He needs a wake-up call.
  10. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    25 Jul '11 13:58
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Maybe god will remain Jewish this time.


    very good
  11. 25 Jul '11 15:25
    Obama losing support from liberals.

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/07/cnn-poll-obama-losing-support-from-the-left.php?ref=fpc
  12. 25 Jul '11 15:50
    Originally posted by sh76
    A Jewish socialist for President of the United States.

    Yeah, that'll happen.
    I might vote for him, depending on how the field looks. Remember, most democrats are looking for an alternative to Obama. I like Ron Paul but even I would defect to Sanders if the conditions were right.
  13. 25 Jul '11 16:09
    Originally posted by Metal Brain
    I might vote for him, depending on how the field looks. Remember, most democrats are looking for an alternative to Obama. I like Ron Paul but even I would defect to Sanders if the conditions were right.
    Ron Paul opposes the wars, and that's good. Unfortunately, the rest of his platform is goofy.
  14. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    25 Jul '11 17:35
    Originally posted by Metal Brain
    I might vote for him, depending on how the field looks. Remember, most democrats are looking for an alternative to Obama. I like Ron Paul but even I would defect to Sanders if the conditions were right.
    Defecting from Ron Paul to Bernie Sanders is like defecting from Milton Friedman to Karl Marx. There are probably no two members of Congress who are more different than Paul and Sanders. Maybe Jim Inhofe and Nancy Pelosi; but it would take that sort of comparison.

    Yes, they both don't like participation in foreign wars. But that's where their similarity ends. Paul wants the government to do nothing and let the private sector run everything. Sanders wants the government to run the private sector and use its power to enforce (something approaching) wealth equality among the people.
  15. 25 Jul '11 23:37
    Originally posted by sh76
    Defecting from Ron Paul to Bernie Sanders is like defecting from Milton Friedman to Karl Marx. There are probably no two members of Congress who are more different than Paul and Sanders. Maybe Jim Inhofe and Nancy Pelosi; but it would take that sort of comparison.

    Yes, they both don't like participation in foreign wars. But that's where their similarity ends ...[text shortened]... sector and use its power to enforce (something approaching) wealth equality among the people.
    So what.
    Neither of them would be creating any of the bills. They can only sign or veto what makes it to their desk once president.
    Either of them would end up serving us well.