Originally posted by eatmybishopYou do have a spectacular misunderstanding of what war is about.
so killing innocent people is justified through your eyes...
when the child wonders why mummy and daddy arnt coming home... do you say to them:
"I wish people would do some reading into the 100's/1000's of years of history before brashly commenting on the IRA/Republic/British... etc"
that will wipe the tears from their eyes
War is politics by other means -- a settling of conflicts between nations. Part of it involves soldiers shooting at one another -- a very small part.
Acts of terrorism, as you call them, just imply that a war is beginning. In war, everything is justified -- everything. There are NO rules. The only reason you occasionally avoid doing something is in hopes that a "gentleman's agreement" will cause the other side to also refrain.
That's what makes war the most barbaric, insane, savage, brutal, unproductive, horrendous activity the human race ever embarks upon.
So if you want a minimum of tears in children's eyes, think carefully before you sing patriotic songs and proudly declare that you "refuse to negotiate", thereby goading opposing nations into war.
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Originally posted by spruce112358this is probably the most naive comment i've heard on here... so the holocaust is justified because it was a war between germans and jews...?
You do have a spectacular misunderstanding of what war is about.
War is politics by other means -- a settling of conflicts between nations. Part of it involves soldiers shooting at one another -- a very small part.
Acts of terrorism, as you call them, just imply that a war is beginning. In war, everything is justified -- everything. There are NO r roudly declare that you "refuse to negotiate", thereby goading opposing nations into war.
in fact, you are wrong, war is not an all out massacre on the opposing forces... how about the geneva convention, the hague convention, the geneva protocol...???
a war is fought by two sides.... terrorism is not a war, but fighting made by cowards with no faces
so i would appreciate your answer to this...
you consider the holocaust justified because it was a war?
Originally posted by eatmybishopYou misunderstood my point, but I didn't state it very well.
this is probably the most naive comment i've heard on here... so the holocaust is justified because it was a war between germans and jews...?
in fact, you are wrong, war is not an all out massacre on the opposing forces... how about the geneva convention, the hague convention, the geneva protocol...???
a war is fought by two sides.... terrorism is ...[text shortened]... appreciate your answer to this...
you consider the holocaust justified because it was a war?
To some Americans, Hiroshima was justifed. To the Japanese not. To some Nazis the Holocaust was justified -- to the vast majority of others, no.
'Justified' acts in war isn't even a concept that makes sense. One can say that everything or nothing is justified in war -- war itself isn't justified or unjustified any more than a lion killing an antelope. War is naked force against force.
The conventions that try to make war 'civilized' are just an admission that we have dismally failed to eliminate the injustices that lead to war -- and therefore expect wars to continue.
What could be more pathetic (or short-lasting) than the notion of a 'civilized' war?
Originally posted by eatmybishopTerrorism is sometimes war waged by the 'poor side' against the rich and powerful empire...
a war is fought by two sides.... terrorism is not a war, but fighting made by cowards with no faces
Do you seriously expect Al Qaeda, or even the likes of Iraq declaring war on the US?
Originally posted by spruce112358well i guess the geneva convention was trying to make war as civillised as it could get....
You misunderstood my point, but I didn't state it very well.
To some Americans, Hiroshima was justifed. To the Japanese not. To some Nazis the Holocaust was justified -- to the vast majority of others, no.
'Justified' acts in war isn't even a concept that makes sense. One can say that everything or nothing is justified in war -- war itself isn't j ...[text shortened]...
What could be more pathetic (or short-lasting) than the notion of a 'civilized' war?
you raise valid points though... i dont think you worded your first post too well, it implyed in war everything is justified and we can do what we what... maybe we can, though it would be nice to think there is still humanity in war...
i am sure many would say the acts that take place during war is without justification... maybe they're right, maybe war is a reason for us to treat our enemy our we wish... i've never fought in a war so i guess i have no idea where it would take me
Originally posted by Crowleyyes, this is psychological as well.... the small guy taking on the might of the empire for what he believes is his.... most would side with the small guy
Terrorism is sometimes war waged by the 'poor side' against the rich and powerful empire...
Do you seriously expect Al Qaeda, or even the likes of Iraq declaring war on the US?