Economic sanctions won't work against NK

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/world/asia/north-korea-hacking-cybersecurity.html

North Korea does not need to have any trade to make money, they just steal it through hacking.

Originally posted by @whodey
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/world/asia/north-korea-hacking-cybersecurity.html

North Korea does not need to have any trade to make money, they just steal it through hacking.

Of all the countries from Haiti to Iran which the USA has tried to impoverish through sanctions, how often has the USA achieved its policy goals by this means?

Originally posted by @finnegan
Of all the countries from Haiti to Iran which the USA has tried to impoverish through sanctions, how often has the USA achieved its policy goals by this means?

None.

My guess is they use it just to slow them down a bit.

Originally posted by @whodey
None.

My guess is they use it just to slow them down a bit.

My guess is that, since it has no justifiable policy objective and serves no realistic goal, then the determination of the USA to impoverish the people of other countries which fail - like Haiti say - to comply with the USA's own ideological preferences, is immoral and vindictive, as well as being illegal.

Look what happened when the USA lifted its trade embargo against China. It did not liberate a stream of communists to undermine civilisation as we know it. Instead, it radically transformed China itself in ways that the USA surely welcomes and China joined the international trade fellowship and engaged in effective diplomacy instead of empty rhetorical abuse on both sides.

According to this article, NK can use nukes to do an EMP attack, which may devastate 90% of the US population.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/congress-warned-north-korean-emp-attack-would-kill-90-of-all-americans/article/2637349

If so, happy days are here again for people such as yourself who hate the US.

Originally posted by @whodey
According to this article, NK can use nukes to do an EMP attack, which may devastate 90% of the US population.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/congress-warned-north-korean-emp-attack-would-kill-90-of-all-americans/article/2637349

If so, happy days are here again for people such as yourself who hate the US.

Is that like the imminent threat Iraq posed to the western world and civilisation as we knew it at the time of the boozy Bush child?

...Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

YouTube

Originally posted by @finnegan
Is that like the imminent threat Iraq posed to the western world and civilisation as we knew it at the time of the boozy Bush child?

...Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXrmQBPg2s0

Are you disputing their capability?

I would like to think that NK is not suicidal.

Originally posted by @whodey
Are you disputing their capability?

I would like to think that NK is not suicidal.

I would like to think the USA is not genocidal.



It'd be nice.

Originally posted by @finnegan
I would like to think the USA is not genocidal.



It'd be nice.

50 plus million abortions and counting.

Sorry to bust your bubble.

Originally posted by @whodey
50 plus million abortions and counting.

Sorry to bust your bubble.

Your head is a never ending closed loop, impregnable to external influence.