Enviro-statism

Originally posted by whodey
The information I used came from a book I had read dealing with eviro-statism. So what? Either the facts are corrrect or they are not. As far as I can see, you have been unable to produce one fact that I have provided as a falsehood. Instead, you lower yourself to character assassination as you typically do. Now if you would like to join the conversation by addressing the facts at hand you are more than welcome.

The fact is you characterized a WHO decsion as meaning that "Statists sentenced tens of millions of people to death". It's one of the creepiest things I've read on this forum for weeks. Utterly twisted and creepy. All in the context of your tedious misanthropy trotted out here day in day out. You have no shame.

Originally posted by Melanerpes
one of the major concerns about DDT was that it was greatly harming birds like ospreys and eagles because it would cause their egg shells be too thin and thus easily broken.

Back in the 1970's, I can remember when you would almost never see an osprey or a bald eagle in New Jersey. Today, ospreys are rather common (especially near the coast), and it's ...[text shortened]... ut since all statists are Evil, I guess we'd be stuck with an "anything goes" approach?

You point out some valid things here. Any chemical/drug has side effects that are undesirable. However, to what extent are the undesirable that warrants their ban? Now lets say I get a bug up my rump and decide that I want asparin banned. It seems the best method is to provide and overview of the ill effects of the drug and blow it out of proportion using scare tactics screaming the sky is falling!! Then you ally yourself with those politically powerful enough to ban the drug and you are in business.

Now in terms of the crusade against DDT, I can't decide if they really believed what they were espousing or whether they had other agendas, however, it illustrates how government and special interests can collude in such a way that is frightening to say the least. It is frightening because the agendas of special interests outweighed the benefit for mankind as a whole. It would then behoove people to recognize this fact and prevent future decisions such as this.

Originally posted by whodey
Now if you would like to join the conversation by addressing the facts at hand you are more than welcome.

Tell you what. Why don't you trawl through history and find as many mistakes as you can made by people trying to protect humanity and then characterize them all, in your boring monotone, as deliberate attempts and conspiracies to murder or execute as many people as possible, and we will all read your jaundiced drivel and marvel at your 'conversation' skills.

Originally posted by FMF
The fact is you characterized a WHO decsion as meaning that "Statists sentenced tens of millions of people to death". It's one of the creepiest things I've read on this forum for weeks. Utterly twisted and creepy. All in the context of your tedious misanthropy trotted out here day in day out. You have no shame.

Whether they did this intentionally or they did not does not change the fact that this is, in fact, what occured. Or do you challenge the notion the statisitics that reveal that millions die every year from malaria as well as the fact that DDT has shown to drastically reduce these numbers?

Originally posted by whodey
Now in terms of the crusade against DDT, I can't decide if they really believed what they were espousing or whether they had other agendas

Can we cite your inability to decide as evidence that this was a deliberate genocidal policy?

Originally posted by FMF
Tell you what. Why don't you trawl through history and find as many mistakes as you can made by people trying to protect humanity and then characterize them all, in your boring monotone, as deliberate attempts and conspiracies to murder or execute as many people as possible, and we will all read your jaundiced drivel and marvel at your 'conversation' skills.

If you think I am going to allow your continued personal attacks to censor what I wish to say then all I can say is sorry about your luck jack. 😛

Originally posted by whodey
Whether they did this intentionally or they did not does not change the fact that this is, in fact, what occured.

But the whole thrust of your OP and subsequent shabby witterings has been that it WAS intentional genocide as we see in your "Statists sentenced tens of millions of people to death" rubbish. Boy you are hater. Creep of The Month Award goes to whodey.

Originally posted by FMF
Can we cite your inability to decide as evidence that this was a deliberate genocidal policy?

They knew the statistical facts as we do yet they turned their head the other way. Why? What say you?

Originally posted by FMF
But the whole thrust of your OP and subsequent shabby witterings has been that it WAS intentional genocide as we see in your "Statists sentenced tens of millions of people to death" rubbish. Boy you are hater. Creep of The Month Award goes to whodey.

You can call me a creep if you like but what shall we call those who let these millions die?

Originally posted by whodey
If you think I am going to allow your continued personal attacks to censor what I wish to say then all I can say is sorry about your luck jack. 😛

Say what you like. Say "Statists sentenced tens of millions of people to death". Why not? Say this too: Obama wants Death camps for granny. I am not trying to censor you. Not at all. You capably demonstrate the abject pits of intellectual grot rot with half of your post. Go for it.

Originally posted by FMF
Say what you like. Say "Statists sentenced tens of millions of people to death". Why not? Say this too: Obama wants Death camps for granny. I am not trying to censor you. Not at all. You capably demonstrate the abject pits of intellectual grot rot with half of your post. Go for it.

You are attacking a person who has revealed the facts that millions were allowed to die by banning DDT yet you do not provide evidence that this was in error. I would think to discredit me, you would discredit the facts yet you persist in this personal barrage.

Originally posted by whodey
They knew the statistical facts as we do yet they turned their head the other way. Why? What say you?

Unlike you, I don't think it was a deliberate genocidal policy. The only 'argument' you've made so far is to cite your own inablility to decide if it was a deliberate genocidal policy.

Originally posted by whodey
I would think to discredit me, you would discredit the facts yet you persist in this personal barrage.

You discredit yourself with almost every post.

Originally posted by FMF
Unlike you, I don't think it was a deliberate genocidal policy. The only 'argument' you've made so far is to cite your own inablility to decide if it was a deliberate genocidal policy.

Very well, you don't think it was deliberate, but you do agree that it sent many millions to their graves. Am I correct in this assumption?

Originally posted by whodey
You are attacking a person who has revealed the facts that millions were allowed to die by banning DDT

You didn't "reveal" this fact, Mr. Big Boots. It's been common knowledge for more than 7 years in the development/NGO world. The Indonesian government eradicated malaria on the entire island of Java (population 120,000,000) without the use of DDT in the 1980s and 1990s.