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@wildgrass said
It's translation in the same base language which is easy to do. Plenty of options. There are lots of good phone app that do speech-to-text accurately. The white house could also provide this as a chyron on a screen somewhere in the room, if they were concerned with security or whatever.
This could be done, yes, but I doubt Trump (or his minions) will actually do it.

Actually doing something for someone not named Trump?

Fuggeddaboutit.


@moonbus said
@Suzianne

The National Association for the Deaf sued the Trump administration in May; the case is ongoing.

And yes, the law applies to people with malicious narcissism syndrome, too.
Good!

Others can use the courts too.

He's not an Emperor. Or King.


I still work for the US Postal Service (at least until I start my doctorate and have to do a year-long residence somewhere) and we have weekly stand-up talks, usually about safety. As a Federal agency, we take federal law seriously, around election time we have stand-ups about the Hatch Act, and we're being reminded all the time about Federal regulations that affect our job duties, including illegal emoluments and such. The area I work in has a couple of deaf employees and we have waited our meetings until the sign-language person can be there. The ADA is Federal law and we must follow it. End of story. If we can't make accommodations, we delay or postpone the meetings.

Trump could do the same. That is, if he weren't such a gigantic asshole.


@moonbus said
Get this: a previous administration routinely used American Sign Language during press conferences to reach out to hundreds of thousands of hearing- impaired Americans. The Trump administration has cancelled this service, arguing in court that it “would severely intrude on the President’s prerogative to control the image he presents to the public.”

Here's a link to an arti ...[text shortened]... language-trump-white-house-7ac33c635cdefd22154d6eb7e47d3d55

Do you know know anyone who is deaf ?
I personally don't see an issue with it. With all modern TV's having closed captioning it is not really needed. If someone is at an event in person, they would have to be in the front row to see the interpreter, or they would have to have a separate big screen showing only the interpreter.

I know a few deaf people and I haven't heard anyone unhappy, then again, I have never asked them. So, either they don't mind enough to bring it up or....well I guess that must be it. My city has a very large deaf community and college. This has not been brought up in our local news.

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@boonon said
I personally don't see an issue with it. With all modern TV's having closed captioning it is not really needed. If someone is at an event in person, they would have to be in the front row to see the interpreter, or they would have to have a separate big screen showing only the interpreter.

I know a few deaf people and I haven't heard anyone unhappy, then again, I have neve ...[text shortened]... My city has a very large deaf community and college. This has not been brought up in our local news.
What message is it sending to people with disabilities, to outright refuse to communicate with them in their (sign) language, and to actually argue in court that it impairs Trump's self-projected image to do so?

The message it sends is: "MY self-projected image is all important, you're not." Fits perfectly with "Quiet, Piggy!" He has no concept of holding public office as being a public servant. Not a president who unites people. Trump is the most divisive president since Jeff Davis.


@boonon said
I personally don't see an issue with it. With all modern TV's having closed captioning it is not really needed. If someone is at an event in person, they would have to be in the front row to see the interpreter, or they would have to have a separate big screen showing only the interpreter.

I know a few deaf people and I haven't heard anyone unhappy, then again, I have neve ...[text shortened]... My city has a very large deaf community and college. This has not been brought up in our local news.
Because most institutions that serve the public follow federal law.

The hue and cry over this is the direct statement from the Executive Branch saying they will refuse to follow federal law.


@moonbus said
What message is it sending to people with disabilities, to outright refuse to communicate with them in their (sign) language, and to actually argue in court that it impairs Trump's self-projected image to do so?

The message it sends is: "MY self-projected image is all important, you're not." Fits perfectly with "Quiet, Piggy!" He has no concept of holding pub ...[text shortened]... c servant. Not a president who unites people. Trump is the most divisive president since Jeff Davis.
You mean deaf people, correct? I will ask my friends when I see them how this affects them personally. Like I said before my city probably has the largest deaf community and college in the US. There has not been one story in the news locally about this.


@Suzianne said
Because most institutions that serve the public follow federal law.

The hue and cry over this is the direct statement from the Executive Branch saying they will refuse to follow federal law.
Ok, and ?

I will be interested to see how this plays out in court. Please fill me in when they decide on it. If it is such a big deal as you claim, then the administration will have to use interpreters. Easy peasy lemon squeezy

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@moonbus said
Get this: a previous administration routinely used American Sign Language during press conferences to reach out to hundreds of thousands of hearing- impaired Americans. The Trump administration has cancelled this service, arguing in court that it “would severely intrude on the President’s prerogative to control the image he presents to the public.”

Here's a link to an arti ...[text shortened]... language-trump-white-house-7ac33c635cdefd22154d6eb7e47d3d55

Do you know know anyone who is deaf ?
And what a fine and noble image Trump does project all around the clock and around the world.

As for your question: no, not at the moment.

However, at the end of 2025, don't we have real-time closed-captioning to subtitle Trump's stage antics?

I kind of get that the sometimes expressive nature of ASL could be a distraction from Jackass Prime's own delivery.

Interesting to learn (just before posting) that in the USA, deafness occurs more often in non-Hispanic Whites than in Hispanic Americans (which was my initial assumption based on the deaf-teenager trope in two or three Spanish-language suspense movies or series).

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@Arkturos

Yes, real-time closed-captioning subtitles are available. Two questions remain.

1. what message is Trump sending to hearing-disabled people, when he explicitly refuses to avail himself of their usual mode of communication? Did Trump bother to ASK anybody? I sincerely doubt it. He is on record mocking other disabled people, and this looks like a deliberate snub.

2. who or what is composing the real-time captioning? A machine or a human? If a human, then why not show us the human on screen using ASL? That is not more distracting than captions. If a machine, then good luck with Trump's frequent word salad rants ....


@moonbus said
@Arkturos

Yes, real-time closed-captioning subtitles are available. Two questions remain.

1. what message is Trump sending to hearing-disabled people, when he explicitly refuses to avail himself of their usual mode of communication? Did Trump bother to ASK anybody? I sincerely doubt it. He is on record mocking other disabled people, and this looks like a deliberate snu ...[text shortened]... distracting than captions. If a machine, then good luck with Trump's frequent word salad rants ....
1) Just because people are deaf doesn't mean they are blind, illiterate, or slow on the uptake.

2) Wouldn't Trump's word-salad also be challenging to convey with ASL?


@Arkturos said
1) Just because people are deaf doesn't mean they are blind, illiterate, or slow on the uptake.

2) Wouldn't Trump's word-salad also be challenging to convey with ASL?
1) Of course. What's yer point?

2) Of course. What's yer point?


@moonbus said
1) Of course. What's yer point?

2) Of course. What's yer point?
I think there's a 92% chance that anyone watching Trump with the sound off would understand the image he presents to the public.


@Suzianne said
God forbid he be caring enough to accommodate everyone.

We already know he mocks those with disabilities.

I guess he wants his image to be a cold-hearted bastard.
Guess who Trump wants to be governor of Minnesota: Mike Lindell the pillow guy......

OF COURSE, eh.


@sonhouse said
Guess who Trump wants to be governor of Minnesota: Mike Lindell the pillow guy......

OF COURSE, eh.
From my year in Mankato a long time ago, I think the next governor of Minnesota should be someone who has collected depression-era dinnerware.