Father's Day

The US first Father’s Day was celebrated on June 19, 1910, in the state of Washington.

Has being a father changed since 1910? The intrinsic role "father."

I am of course thinking of economics and progress and science and we know now compared to 1910 . It's a different world. Does that change the role father?

Maybe we can do this without mentioning personal politics and criticizing women. Maybe we can stick to our personal experiences - our house, our street, our neighborhood. Not what we see on TV or in our echo chambers.

We know what people trying to get likes and influence us think - what do you think? What have you seen?

There is a great passage in Stephen King's book On Writing where he talks about taking pen to paper and reporting back what you have seen. You have a singular experience in your home and your town - what have you seen in your family. Your dad and your dad's dad.

Has being a father changed since 1910? The intrinsic role "father."

@Bish

Pros and cons with the new father figure, I would think.

@Bish said
The US first Father’s Day was celebrated on June 19, 1910, in the state of Washington.

Has being a father changed since 1910? The intrinsic role "father."

I am of course thinking of economics and progress and science and we know now compared to 1910 . It's a different world. Does that change the role father?

Maybe we can do this without mentioning personal politics an ...[text shortened]... Your dad and your dad's dad.

Has being a father changed since 1910? The intrinsic role "father."

@spruce112358 said
No. Conditions change, but the role of ‘father’ is bound up with the archetypes of being a mature ‘male.’ Jung labeled them King, Warrior, Magician, Lover, but you could parse them many different ways. Taking the journey that leaves the ‘boy’ behind while not falling into ‘shadow’ has always been the game. 😆

Ordering and protecting the family
Enduring hardship and t ...[text shortened]... or individuals and being passionate about the family succeeding

I think these apply in any age. 😆

@Torunn said
@Bish

Pros and cons with the new father figure, I would think.

@spruce112358 said
No. Conditions change, but the role of ‘father’ is bound up with the archetypes of being a mature ‘male.’ Jung labeled them King, Warrior, Magician, Lover, but you could parse them many different ways. Taking the journey that leaves the ‘boy’ behind while not falling into ‘shadow’ has always been the game. 😆

Ordering and protecting the family
Enduring hardship and t ...[text shortened]... or individuals and being passionate about the family succeeding

I think these apply in any age. 😆

@AverageJoe1 said
I would add teaching your children the aspects of perparatioin for the many practical facets of life as well. Yeah, money, economics, what investments are about. Start with $100 (which they have to 'earn'😉 and set up what looks like a real investment account. Put 4 stocks in there that start off with their values 3 months ago, and show a graph of how they grow each wee ...[text shortened]... ntees, teach them risk in life. And so it goes.

At the end of 3 month, give them back $115!!!!!!

@Bish said
This is so smart. But how do you not influence them - not the right word - but how do you teach them to make their own investing decisions instead of just listening to yours?

Do we teach trust by having trust? If so, has that always been the case?

Or is taking the time to teach your kids the difference between an investment and an expenditure a luxury of the last 80 years? ( "Post-WWII" )

@AverageJoe1 said
My post not written well, sorry, Anyway, depends on the age, I guess. A child would say 'APPL' cause she likes apples. But do the 3 months in any event, so you will know what the bogus chart is going to show as the 3 months goes by. You will actually decide what the child's results will be. There will obviously be a win when it is over, with a bit of nail biting. S ...[text shortened]... aving your money to the Boys&Girls Club. Serously, actually. If you don't, they will be sorryass.l

@Bish said
No, the post was written fine. And I agree.

Teach them about compound interest as soon as they will understand it. It is different for everyone.

If you are not making money while you are sleeping, you will work the rest of your life. Warren Buffet maybe? Someone said that - not me💲

@AverageJoe1 said
Having written all that, I'd be remiss to not say that they should be introuced to the needs of those in need, charitable endeavors. Have them work once a week volunteering, they must witness those less fortunate, and taught how just their presence can greatly help people

@AverageJoe1 said
I would add teaching your children the aspects of perparatioin for the many practical facets of life as well. Yeah, money, economics, what investments are about. Start with $100 (which they have to 'earn'😉 and set up what looks like a real investment account. Put 4 stocks in there that start off with their values 3 months ago, and show a graph of how they grow each wee ...[text shortened]... ntees, teach them risk in life. And so it goes.

At the end of 3 month, give them back $115!!!!!!

@Bish said
I think this is exactly right. But it feels like something is different. Or missing.

The simple fact is we know more now. There is a lot of science about why marriages work or don't work. There are books on How to Win Friends & Influence People. Invest in college or trade school or third options - complicated decisions. Options that weren't there for most everyone in 1910. ...[text shortened]... more knowable information now mean fathers have to invest more time into learning so they can teach?

@AverageJoe1 said
My post not written well, sorry, Anyway, depends on the age, I guess. A child would say 'APPL' cause she likes apples. But do the 3 months in any event, so you will know what the bogus chart is going to show as the 3 months goes by. You will actually decide what the child's results will be. There will obviously be a win when it is over, with a bit of nail biting. S ...[text shortened]... aving your money to the Boys&Girls Club. Serously, actually. If you don't, they will be sorryass.l

@Suzianne said
I hope, for your daughters sake, that there is something in your life more important than money.