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  1. 27 Mar '11 01:54
    http://freestateproject.org/news/media_archive/0098.php

    Libertarians across the US have decided to join up and form what is called "The Free State Project." The idea is to get around 20,000 willing libertarians to pack up and move to the state of New Hampshire to transform it into a working model of small government so it can be compared to its other 49 peers.

    Why New Hampshire?

    There are many reasons. First of all, the state motto is, "Live free or die". Secondly, New Hampshire boasts the lowest state and local taxes in the continental US. As a result, they have one of the lowest unemployment rates in the nation at around 5.6%. Compare that to the national unemployment rate of 9%. And lastly, New Hampshire has the leanest state government in the union with a citizen legislature and local support for the movement as well as a friendly state Constitution which protects right to revolution and succession.

    Texas, eat your heart out!!!

    I think this is what is needed. What is needed is a labortory of conservatism. If given a chance, it will blow away its statist peers. After all, competition is one major aspect of what sets socialism apart from capitalism. That is why socialists run to centralize government, thus squashing competing thoughts and ideas that threaten their agendas.
  2. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    27 Mar '11 01:59
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://freestateproject.org/news/media_archive/0098.php

    Libertarians across the US have decided to join up and form what is called "The Free State Project." The idea is to get around 20,000 willing libertarians to pack up and move to the state of New Hampshire to transform it into a working model of small government so it can be compared to its other 49 p ...[text shortened]... tralize government, thus squashing competing thoughts and ideas that threaten their agendas.
    Good luck to you. I hope you're able to secede in relatively short order.
  3. 27 Mar '11 02:23 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Good luck to you. I hope you're able to secede in relatively short order.
    Yes, we will succeed, thanks for the encouragment!!

    There is room for one more. Just pretend its a large commune dedicated to the destruction of the religous right.
  4. 27 Mar '11 02:42 / 2 edits
    What I am really hoping is that the Libertarian party might actually begin to win elections in New Hampshire. It might be the very thing needed to get a viable national Libertarian party up and going.
  5. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    27 Mar '11 02:47
    Originally posted by whodey
    What I am really hoping is that the Libertarian party might actually begin to win elections in New Hampshire. It might be the very thing needed to get a viable national Libertarian party up and going.
    Will its public advocates be people of the calibre of Wajoma and yourself?
  6. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    27 Mar '11 02:48
    Originally posted by whodey
    What I am really hoping is that the Libertarian party might actually begin to win elections in New Hampshire. It might be the very thing needed to get a viable national Libertarian party up and going.
    Yeah, that'll happen just as soon as the Green party starts winning big. Dream on.
  7. 27 Mar '11 02:51
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Yeah, that'll happen just as soon as the Green party starts winning big. Dream on.
    Yes, it is a dream. Hope is a wonderful thing, even if it is misplaced.
  8. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    27 Mar '11 03:08
    Originally posted by whodey
    Yes, it is a dream. Hope is a wonderful thing, even if it is misplaced.
    Well if it's some kind of Wajomastan you're thinking of, the only kind of dream it conjures up is one with coils of barbed wire everywhere, cholera and the ubiquitous private sector jackboots 'stepping in'.
  9. 27 Mar '11 03:21
    Originally posted by FMF
    Well if it's some kind of Wajomastan you're thinking of, the only kind of dream it conjures up is one with coils of barbed wire everywhere, cholera and the ubiquitous private sector jackboots 'stepping in'.
    Hmmmm. Barbed wire everywhere.

    That reminds me, they need to begin to erect a barbed wire fence around New Hampshire to keep people out. After all, a gated community is a safe community.
  10. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    27 Mar '11 03:24
    Originally posted by whodey
    Hmmmm. Barbed wire everywhere.

    That reminds me, they need to begin to erect a barbed wire fence around New Hampshire to keep people out. After all, a gated community is a safe community.
    Yep. Barbed wire. Cholera. Jackboots. Wajomastan.
  11. 27 Mar '11 14:14 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    Yep. Barbed wire. Cholera. Jackboots. Wajomastan.
    Yes, people should be allowed to CHOOSE the barbed wire and cholera and jackboots. They should be allowed to CHOOSE to forgo the nanny state and, as a result, embrace mayhem and people dying in the streets because Big Brother is not there to take care of them.

    God help them all!! :'(

    Really, the libertarian movement is a stark contrast from the left. They are revealing the difference between the two which is that one embraces freedom and the other wants to take it away.
  12. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    27 Mar '11 14:32
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://freestateproject.org/news/media_archive/0098.php

    Libertarians across the US have decided to join up and form what is called "The Free State Project." The idea is to get around 20,000 willing libertarians to pack up and move to the state of New Hampshire to transform it into a working model of small government so it can be compared to its other 49 p ...[text shortened]... tralize government, thus squashing competing thoughts and ideas that threaten their agendas.
    New Hampshire has managed to created a huge deficit for itself by its refusal to tax adequately even though they have extensive "sin" taxes. http://sunapeenews.com/2011/02/11/opinion-understanding-nh%E2%80%99s-budget-deficit/
  13. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    27 Mar '11 14:41
    Originally posted by whodey
    Yes, people should be allowed to CHOOSE the barbed wire and cholera and jackboots. They should be allowed to CHOOSE to forgo the nanny state and, as a result, embrace mayhem and people dying in the streets because Big Brother is not there to take care of them.
    You should keep these words ready for your New Hampshire Declaration of Independence.
  14. 27 Mar '11 16:09
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    New Hampshire has managed to created a huge deficit for itself by its refusal to tax adequately even though they have extensive "sin" taxes. http://sunapeenews.com/2011/02/11/opinion-understanding-nh%E2%80%99s-budget-deficit/
    Don't worry, the Libertarians are coming to make it all better.
  15. 27 Mar '11 18:13
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://freestateproject.org/news/media_archive/0098.php

    Libertarians across the US have decided to join up and form what is called "The Free State Project." The idea is to get around 20,000 willing libertarians to pack up and move to the state of New Hampshire to transform it into a working model of small government so it can be compared to its other 49 p ...[text shortened]... tralize government, thus squashing competing thoughts and ideas that threaten their agendas.
    New Hampshire boasts the lowest state and local taxes in the continental US. As a result, they have one of the lowest unemployment rates in the nation at around 5.6%.

    Norway has one of the highest tax rates in the world. It also has one of the lowest unemployment rates, even though female participation in the labour market is also high.