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Free will does not exist.

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Free will does not exist at all. Everything is a product of cause and effect. Down to the atom.

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Originally posted by Brother Edwin
Free will does not exist at all. Everything is a product of cause and effect. Down to the atom.
I don't want to respond, but I can't help it.

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Originally posted by Brother Edwin
Free will does not exist at all. Everything is a product of cause and effect. Down to the atom.
Sorry, this has already been done.
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=36301

And also in the moral responsibility thread on the spirituality forum.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
I don't want to respond, but I can't help it.
Of my own free will, I am determined not to respond.

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Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
Of my own free will, I am determined not to respond.
No, of your own will. Thus since this is causality you could never have acted otherwise and must have no free will.

Also, be careful when you say "of you own free will" you use the words "free will" in a different way to what Brother Edwin meant.

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Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
Of my own free will, I am determined not to respond.
However it is not your choice, it is a product of pride, attempting to prove me wrong etc.

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Originally posted by Brother Edwin
Free will does not exist at all. Everything is a product of cause and effect. Down to the atom.
What was the cause of your spelling "realm" incorrectly, or "words," for that matter?

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
What was the cause of your spelling "realm" incorrectly, or "words," for that matter?
Nevermind, Freaky! Brother Ed's spelling has improved leaps and bounds since the "good old days". 😀

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Originally posted by Conrau K
No, of your own will. Thus since this is causality you could never have acted otherwise and must have no free will.

Also, be careful when you say "of you own free will" you use the words "free will" in a different way to what Brother Edwin meant.
Obviously, my attempt at irony failed. Luckily, if determinism is true, it wasn't my fault, as I couldn't have done otherwise.

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Originally posted by darvlay
Nevermind, Freaky! Brother Ed's spelling has improved leaps and bounds since the "good old days". 😀
Sorry to have missed the good ol' days. 'Bet each delicacy was a secret treat within a puzzle.

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Originally posted by Brother Edwin
Free will does not exist at all. Everything is a product of cause and effect. Down to the atom.
Willy was freed and they made a film about it. Ask Nordilys

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Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
Obviously, my attempt at irony failed. Luckily, if determinism is true, it wasn't my fault, as I couldn't have done otherwise.
Slow down a bit. IF determinism is true? I'm sure i'll hear some quantum mechanical indeterminacy any time now... but I should warn you, such indeterminacy is random. So if determinacy is true then it "isn't your fault". But if determinism is false, then your actions are random.

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Originally posted by c99ux
Willy was freed and they made a film about it. Ask Nordilys
Is free Willy's free will really free?

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Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
Obviously, my attempt at irony failed.
It wasn't lost on everybody.

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Originally posted by Conrau K
Slow down a bit. IF determinism is true? I'm sure i'll hear some quantum mechanical indeterminacy any time now... but I should warn you, such indeterminacy is random. So if determinacy is true then it "isn't your fault". But if determinism is false, then your actions are random.
In english please.