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Originally posted by Metal BrainThose in Libya had the highest standard of living in North Africa.
I'm saying it again. He was unfairly demonized and did not deserve it.
What is the worst thing Gaddafi has done? If you think the propaganda demonizing him is true make your case, but be fair about it. Allegations and proof are 2 different things.
Originally posted by Metal BrainLet me guess. He had nothing to do with Pan Am Flight 103.
I'm saying it again. He was unfairly demonized and did not deserve it.
What is the worst thing Gaddafi has done? If you think the propaganda demonizing him is true make your case, but be fair about it. Allegations and proof are 2 different things.
Am I right?
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Originally posted by KazetNagorraToo bad Gaddfi did not have a fleet of drones and the PC speech to smile pretty like Obama.
Killing a bunch of people.
If he had, Gaddafi may have won a Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaking of which, Obama said the US mission was to keep a no fly zone and they were not there to remove Gaddafi.
Sending hundreds of bombs over Libya is an odd way to enforce a no fly zone, but what do I know
Originally posted by sh76There's little credible evidence that Gaddafi "ordered" the bombing of Flight 103. And it is fairly preposterous to claim that the intervention in 2011 had any link to a crime committed in 1988.
I'd say that removing leaders who order the bombing of a civilian airliner would be a good idea.
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Originally posted by no1marauderStatement of the justice minister of Libya not enough evidence for you?
There's little credible evidence that Gaddafi "ordered" the bombing of Flight 103. And it is fairly preposterous to claim that the intervention in 2011 had any link to a crime committed in 1988.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-12552587
Anyway, while Gaddafi certainly did more bad things than just the Lockerbie bombing, that alone would have been sufficient cause to take him out, IMO.
The decision to help take him out was also based on the opportunity that presented itself, of course. The administration's decision to support the rebels was based partially on Gaddafi's history, of which Lockerbie was a part.
Originally posted by sh76No, it isn't since he later repudiated that statement and offered no evidence to support it. It was also made when Abdel-Jalil was an active leader in the revolution and calling for international intervention to support it making such a statement self-serving grist for the gullible like yourself.
Statement of the justice minister of Libya not enough evidence for you?
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-12552587
Anyway, while Gaddafi certainly did more bad things than just the Lockerbie bombing, that alone would have been sufficient cause to take him out, IMO.
The decision to help take him out was also based on the opportunity tha ...[text shortened]... n to support the rebels was based partially on Gaddafi's history, of which Lockerbie was a part.
The idea that the US can simply decide which leaders of foreign countries it can overthrow when "opportunity presents itself" is a shocking one and contrary to any reasonable interpretation of international law.
EDIT: However, he insisted he had been misquoted by a Swedish newspaper last year which claimed he had evidence that Gaddafi personally ordered the December 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103, which claimed 270 lives.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/332936/Lockerbie-The-truth-at-last
EDIT2: Since the Gaddafi boogie man has been disposed of, it is now fashionable to blame Iran for the Lockerbie bombing. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10688067/Lockerbie-bombing-was-work-of-Iran-not-Libya-says-former-spy.html
So you should get with the program; of course, if we can oust the ayatollahs there are plenty of other countries that we can unearth new evidence against to "prove" they ordered the Lockerbie bombing.
Originally posted by st dominics previewLook at him in the light of dudes like Pol Pot or Idi Amin. I think they were a lot more bloodthirsty than Gadaf.
well, he was responsible for ordering the murder of PC Yvonne Fletcher in the mid 80s in the UK.
May be 'small beer' on an international stage, but certainly narked us in UK at the time (especially Ms Fletcher's family)
Originally posted by st dominics previewThis is another highly dubious claim without any credible evidence to support it. Fletcher was shot outside the Libyan Embassy in London during an anti-Gaddafi demonstration; that Gaddafi ordered this is speculation at best.
well, he was responsible for ordering the murder of PC Yvonne Fletcher in the mid 80s in the UK.
May be 'small beer' on an international stage, but certainly narked us in UK at the time (especially Ms Fletcher's family)