Originally posted by daniel58Now you say there are three gods, before you said that there is only one god. HAve you changed your mind, came to a better truth than before?
Yes, according to the Bible, 3 Persons in ONE GOD.
No, your thre gods are cooperating. There are also other gods that your god is afraid of. According to the bible.
Originally posted by FabianFnas"Now you say there are three gods"
Now you say there are three gods, before you said that there is only one god. HAve you changed your mind, came to a better truth than before?
No, your thre gods are cooperating. There are also other gods that your god is afraid of. According to the bible.
No I'm not I'm saying, THERE IS 3 PERSONS IN ON GOD.
"There are also other gods that your god is afraid of. According to the bible"
WRONG!!!
Originally posted by daniel58You know the bible, if you've read it. If you haven't then you don't know what I talk about.
No I have you just keep saying that I keep lying, keep saying that I do and don't do stuff, you just keep saying stuff without backing it up.
Go read your bible. Look at the first commandement.
Originally posted by FabianFnasExodus, Chapter 20, Verses 2-6; I Am The Lord Thy GOd who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt not have strange gods before Me. Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of any thing that is in Heaven above, or in the Earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the Earth. Thou shalt not adore them, nor serve them: I Am The Lord Thy God, Mighty, jealous, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me: and shewing mercy unto thousands to them that love Me, and keep My commandments.
You know the bible, if you've read it. If you haven't then you don't know what I talk about.
Go read your bible. Look at the first commandement.
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Originally posted by daniel58Good, you found it.
Exodus, Chapter 20, Verses 2-6; I Am The Lord Thy GOd who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt not have strange gods before Me. Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of any thing that is in Heaven above, or in the Earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the Earth. ...[text shortened]... m that hate Me: and shewing mercy unto thousands to them that love Me, and keep My commandments.
"Thou shalt not have strange gods before Me." (Is this really english?)
Here it says, black on white, that there are strange gods that god doesn't want us to worship. God says it himself! There are more gods than himself. Do I need to go further?
Okay, he goes further: "I Am The Lord Thy God, Mighty, jealous, ". Not only that he knows of the other gods, he is also jealosly aware of them. He doesn't have to be jealous if he is not afraid of them. But he is. He is so afraid of them, like a testosterone-filled teenager in love for the first time, jealosly trying to kling to his (fantasy) girlfriend in an attempt to keep her. If there only was one god and on god alone, he doesn't have to be jelous or afraid.
Did you read the passage? Or did you just copy and paste it? Read it once again and you'll realize that there was a reason of his words.
If you think of the religious climate in that area during that time it makes perfect sence why these words were written. We can easaly see it in retrospect from the year of 2009. But at those times it was important for the Jehova worshippers to defend themselves from other religions in the area. Other gods was not jelaous, the lived side-by-side with eachothers, worshipped by bypassers as needed. In this aspect we have much to learn from them. The Jehovans changed the rules. But you knew this already, don't you?
So why do you say that there is only one god, and one alone?
Originally posted by FabianFnasThe Jehovans changed the rules. But you knew this already, don't you?
Good, you found it.
"Thou shalt not have strange gods before Me." (Is this really english?)
Here it says, black on white, that there are strange gods that god doesn't want us to worship. God says it himself! There are more gods than himself. Do I need to go further?
Okay, he goes further: "I Am The Lord Thy God, Mighty, jealous, ". Not only that he ...[text shortened]... his already, don't you?
So why do you say that there is only one god, and one alone?
I beg to differ.The Jehovans did not change the rules. Monotheistic Religion was around before them. Zoroasterism for one.
Originally posted by utherpendragonTrue, there were plenty of them. But were they jealously protected, as Jehovism was?
[b]The Jehovans changed the rules. But you knew this already, don't you?
I beg to differ.The Jehovans did not change the rules. Monotheistic Religion was around before them. Zoroasterism for one.[/b]
Karen Armstrong has written about this. In this area she is my favourite author.
Originally posted by FabianFnasNo you are right. the bible even says god is jealous.
True, there were plenty of them. But were they jealously protected, as Jehovism was?
Karen Armstrong has written about this. In this area she is my favourite author.
Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the
LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
Originally posted by daniel58Well, that wholly depends on who'se reading whose bible, doesn't it?
Yes, according to the Bible, 3 Persons in ONE GOD.
You could say that from God came Jesus and the Holy ghost, but, especially if you're less orthodoxically inclined that from God and Jesus came the Holy Ghost.