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  1. SubscriberWOLFE63
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    04 Jul '18 12:011 edit
    Current socio-political trends suggest the answer is YES.

    It has been 38 years since Ronald Reagan took the helm of the movement in America. During that period, conservatives have made many promises. What do we have to show for them?

    - Has our middle-class become job-secure and wealthier?

    - Is our nation and world cleaner and safer?

    - Have we propagated a good image internationally, winning more friends than enemies?

    I suggest the answer to all of those questions is resoundingly...NO.
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    04 Jul '18 13:59
    Originally posted by @wolfe63
    Current socio-political trends suggest the answer is YES.

    It has been 38 years since Ronald Reagan took the helm of the movement in America. During that period, conservatives have made many promises. What do we have to show for them?

    - Has our middle-class become job-secure and wealthier?

    - Is our nation and world cleaner and safer?

    - Have we p ...[text shortened]... re friends than enemies?

    I suggest the answer to all of those questions is resoundingly...NO.
    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/06/buried_news_colombias_shantytowns_rejected_socialism_bigtime_to_avoid_another_venezuela.html
  3. Standard membershavixmir
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    04 Jul '18 15:18
    Conservativism wore out its welcome in 1830 already.
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    04 Jul '18 16:142 edits
    Originally posted by @wolfe63
    Current socio-political trends suggest the answer is YES.

    It has been 38 years since Ronald Reagan took the helm of the movement in America. During that period, conservatives have made many promises. What do we have to show for them?

    - Has our middle-class become job-secure and wealthier?

    - Is our nation and world cleaner and safer?

    - Have we p ...[text shortened]... re friends than enemies?

    I suggest the answer to all of those questions is resoundingly...NO.
    This is true enough, but if you think this is going to change anyone's mind, current socio-political trends suggest the answer is NO. The counter arguments I hear from Conservatives here and elsewhere take the form of simple minded, bumper sticker sound bites from media outlets like FOX News, Breitbart, and the Weekly Standard. This is unfortunate, but it explains why modern Conservatism dislikes higher education. Conservative leaders like their voters weak minded and undereducated, this makes them more easily led and controlled.
  5. SubscriberWOLFE63
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    04 Jul '18 17:05
    Originally posted by @mchill
    This is true enough, but if you think this is going to change anyone's mind, current socio-political trends suggest the answer is NO. The counter arguments I hear from Conservatives here and elsewhere take the form of simple minded, bumper sticker sound bites from media outlets like FOX News, Breitbart, and the Weekly Standard. This is unfortunate, but it ex ...[text shortened]... like their voters weak minded and undereducated, this makes them more easily led and controlled.
    An unfortunate truth I fear.

    Perhaps this is a reason why the relatively well-educated "baby boomer" generation protested in the streets during the 1960s. Certainly, there have been even more reasons for conscientious protest since then. But...nothing.

    A mind-numbing, entertainment culture seems to have displaced our sense of civic responsibility.
    Through insidious media, we've been encouraged to engage in pleasure-seeking and apathy while the Nero's of the right have burned our representative republic to the ground.

    But...not all is doom and gloom: I think the current "Millenial Generation" sees the existential writing on the wall. They appear poised instead of poisoned...and, for this...and for the sake of my son...I am encouaged.
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    04 Jul '18 17:22
    Originally posted by @wolfe63
    Current socio-political trends suggest the answer is YES.

    It has been 38 years since Ronald Reagan took the helm of the movement in America. During that period, conservatives have made many promises. What do we have to show for them?

    - Has our middle-class become job-secure and wealthier?

    - Is our nation and world cleaner and safer?

    - Have we p ...[text shortened]... re friends than enemies?

    I suggest the answer to all of those questions is resoundingly...NO.
    america doesn't have conservatives (or are politically impotent)

    america has hypocrites that yell they are conservatives.

    there is nothing wrong with fiscal conservatism in itself. if you manage your tax money adequately, you should give tax cuts. if you don't have anything to spend tax money on, you should let people spend their own money.

    the problem with america is that they DO have useful things to spend on but choose to spend on idiotic things instead. that they give tax cuts to people who aren't even close to needing them. that they claim to allow people to spend their own money yet they create an economy where the people are utterly screwed over.

    the billionaire doesn't need tax cuts, especially the one who doesn't even have a company (ie offering jobs), the small business with 20 employees does. the military doesn't need a bigger budget, roads and bridges do. the regular citizen should be allowed to spend his own money, yet as a government you must regulate the economy so that pharmaceutical companies don't gouge the prices on a life saving drug.


    fiscal conservatism would be a great idea. you americans should try it.
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