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Is it evil ways or altruism,
that launched the operation called prism?
This is a task on an enormous scale,
involving phone calls, facebook and US Mail.

Privacy is dead and gone.
You think you're alone but there's never just one.
The state they have their eyes on you,
so better behave and pay your taxes too.

To be targeted by the IRS or the NSA
which one is better who can say?
One thing I know for sure.
I don't think their motives are all that pure.

Cameras in space and bugs in the walls,
who's fault is it if the Government falls?
It might not be yours, certainly won't be mine.
Who's that? Is there someone else there on the line?

Obama is watching. He's got your number,
whether you're alive or dead or in a slumber.
I'd love to tell you more but I have to go,
The NSA are here to take me to Guantanamo.

MB

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Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
Is it evil ways or altruism,
that launched the operation called prism?
This is a task on an enormous scale,
involving phone calls, facebook and US Mail.

Privacy is dead and gone.
You think you're alone but there's never just one.
The state they have their eyes on you,
so better behave and pay your taxes too.

To be targeted by the IRS or t ...[text shortened]... I'd love to tell you more but I have to go,
The NSA are here to take me to Guantanamo.
Bush was doing it now Obama too,
don't forget they all monitor you.
Change you can believe in is what we were told,
just another lie that is getting old.

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
Bush was doing it now Obama too,
don't forget they all monitor you.
Change you can believe in is what we were told,
just another lie that is getting old.
It is my belief that every Government spies on its opponents
and on its people. This is nothing new. It goes on everywhere
and has been going on for decades. If I was in power I would do it too.


You would too Metal Brain, tell the truth, be honest.

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Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
It is my belief that every Government spies on its opponents
and on its people. This is nothing new. It goes on everywhere
and has been going on for decades. If I was in power I would do it too.


You would too Metal Brain, tell the truth, be honest.
The idea, though, is that the United States is different. We were an experiment, founded on the idea that the rights of man are intrinsic, not granted by a body, and that government exists to preserve and protect individual rights. The creation of the military-industrial complex was the beginning of the end; a total surveillance state is the logical conclusion of what started during the Cold War.

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
The idea, though, is that the United States is different. We were an experiment, founded on the idea that the rights of man are intrinsic, not granted by a body, and that government exists to preserve and protect individual rights. The creation of the military-industrial complex was the beginning of the end; a total surveillance state is the logical conclusion of what started during the Cold War.
The truth is always different from the ideal.
The USA have been responsible for violations
of human rights just the same as other countries
that don't fit your bill of an ideal state.

Obama has your number, Sgt. Sasquatch. Don't you forget it.
Better look under your car before you start the engine. 😵

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Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
It is my belief that every Government spies on its opponents
and on its people. This is nothing new. It goes on everywhere
and has been going on for decades. If I was in power I would do it too.


You would too Metal Brain, tell the truth, be honest.
If I were the leader of a government I would not be aggressively trying to colonize the world and would not have foreign terrorists pissed at me. If I had enough prosperity in my country and I was not selling my people out to profit from slave wages in foreign countries like China my people would be happy and unlikely to engage in domestic terrorism.

Opponents would have little chance of winning an election against me if I did all that. I would have no need to spy on people in my own country, just on other countries.

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Aww, I was hoping all the posts in this thread would rhyme. We need to have a debate like that.

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
If I were the leader of a government I would not be aggressively trying to colonize the world and would not have foreign terrorists pissed at me. If I had enough prosperity in my country and I was not selling my people out to profit from slave wages in foreign countries like China my people would be happy and unlikely to engage in domestic terrorism.
...[text shortened]... did all that. I would have no need to spy on people in my own country, just on other countries.
If you were the leader of a government you'd be spying on half the population because they were part of the Bilderberg group/Rothschilds/the Fed/Monsanto/Illuminati/NWO/UN/9/11/fill-in-the-blank.

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he sees you when you're sleeping
he knows when you're awake
he knows if you've been bad or good
so be good for goodness sake

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
If you were the leader of a government you'd be spying on half the population because they were part of the Bilderberg group/Rothschilds/the Fed/Monsanto/Illuminati/NWO/UN/9/11/fill-in-the-blank.
No, I would be spying on foreign countries and secure the border. Only a foreign invasion would be a true threat. My people would love me because I wouldn't exploit them.
Only border crossings would be subject to harsh scrutiny. I would want to know who is coming into my country and why.

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
No, I would be spying on foreign countries and secure the border. Only a foreign invasion would be a true threat. My people would love me because I wouldn't exploit them.
Only border crossings would be subject to harsh scrutiny. I would want to know who is coming into my country and why.
Ah ha ha ha ha, you are so innocent it's dangerous to let you out alone.


Thumbs up to Money Man Mike. 😵

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
The idea, though, is that the United States is different. We were an experiment, founded on the idea that the rights of man are intrinsic, not granted by a body, and that government exists to preserve and protect individual rights. The creation of the military-industrial complex was the beginning of the end; a total surveillance state is the logical conclusion of what started during the Cold War.
The experiment found out that if you dumb down the public you can buy their votes in exchange for their freedom. The experiment also found out that when politicians have an incentive, they will allow the country to be overrun by 3rd world inhabitants who are also easily bought.

Nice.

In other words, the present state of the US demonstrates it is a failed experiment. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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The Cremation of Sam McGee
BY ROBERT W. SERVICE
There are strange things done in the midnight sun
By the men who moil for gold;
The Arctic trails have their secret tales
That would make your blood run cold;
The Northern Lights have seen queer sights,
But the queerest they ever did see
Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge
I cremated Sam McGee.

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Originally posted by vivify
Aww, I was hoping all the posts in this thread would rhyme. We need to have a debate like that.
If rhymes you are what you need,
Your own posts must show the deed,
Cause if you don't rhyme
No one will care that you whine
Because your own advice you fail to heed!

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Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
Is it evil ways or altruism,
that launched the operation called prism?
This is a task on an enormous scale,
involving phone calls, facebook and US Mail.

Privacy is dead and gone.
You think you're alone but there's never just one.
The state they have their eyes on you,
so better behave and pay your taxes too.

To be targeted by the IRS or t ...[text shortened]... I'd love to tell you more but I have to go,
The NSA are here to take me to Guantanamo.
I think it really is about time they had a system like this, it worries me more them not having one.

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