It's happening. Georgia became the first state to pass a resolution for states to amend the Constitution in order to try and restore a balance of power between the states and federal government.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/03/first_state_passes_article_v_convention_of_states_resolution.html
16 Mar 14
Originally posted by whodeyGood luck with that. Nothing ever really changes in the US, alas. We can't even get rid of the penny, and seemingly are intellectually incapable of adopting the metric system.
It's happening. Georgia became the first state to pass a resolution for states to amend the Constitution in order to try and restore a balance of power between the states and federal government.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/03/first_state_passes_article_v_convention_of_states_resolution.html
16 Mar 14
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Originally posted by SoothfastThings change here all the time.
Good luck with that. Nothing ever really changes in the US, alas. We can't even get rid of the penny, and seemingly are intellectually incapable of adopting the metric system.
Haven't you heard? Obama just shoved massive healthcare reform down our throats only to exempt his buddies from it.
Times, they are a chang'in.
If only Obama could serve another term. This would help our cause.
17 Mar 14
Originally posted by whodeyA complete waste of time. If the Legislatures of 3/4 of the States want to pass specific Amendments they can without a Convention. In fact, even in the unlikely event such a Convention is ever actually held, it is highly unlikely they would ever propose the silly amendments you want and even more unlikely any would get ratified by 3/4 of the States.
It's happening. Georgia became the first state to pass a resolution for states to amend the Constitution in order to try and restore a balance of power between the states and federal government.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/03/first_state_passes_article_v_convention_of_states_resolution.html
Originally posted by no1marauderSilly amendments? You mean like term limits for a Congress with only a 10% approval rating and a balanced budget amendment? Those types of silly amendments.
A complete waste of time. If the Legislatures of 3/4 of the States want to pass specific Amendments they can without a Convention. In fact, even in the unlikely event such a Convention is ever actually held, it is highly unlikely they would ever propose the silly amendments you want and even more unlikely any would get ratified by 3/4 of the States.
Funny, because about 80% of American favor both of these. I guess you prefer trillion dollar deficits every year and entrenched elected officials that serve 30 plus years in Congress that retire richer than God himself.
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Silly amendments? You mean like term limits for a Congress with only a 10% approval rating and a balanced budget amendment? Those types of silly amendments.
Funny, because about 80% of American favor both of these. I guess you prefer trillion dollar deficits every year and entrenched elected officials that serve 30 plus years in Congress that retire richer than God himself.
If people don't like their Congressmen, they have a fairly easy solution every two years. And if term limits are soooooooooooooo popular, why don't the States simply pass an Amendment putting them into effect? A Convention adds nothing to the process if you've already decided what amendments you want; it's a waste of time.
The deficit is far below a trillion dollars BTW. And God, if she exists, is probably richer than any retired Congressman.
17 Mar 14
Well if 34 states agree on a specific amendment, it is likely that those 34 states will be able to convince at least 4 other states to ratify the amendment. Duh.
I do not even know why you are debating this, No1. As a lib, you are very familiar with group think. The Convention of States should make perfect sense to you.
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Originally posted by MoneyManMikeI note you didn't address the substance of my posts. Anything out of the Convention would still have to be ratified by the States anyway, so it's a waste of time. If the States favor specific amendments like the ones proposed by Levin, they should just pass them. Surely Congress would easily pass such popular measures.
Well if 34 states agree on a specific amendment, it is likely that those 34 states will be able to convince at least 4 other states to ratify the amendment. Duh.
I do not even know why you are debating this, No1. As a lib, you are very familiar with group think. The Convention of States should make perfect sense to you.
Originally posted by no1marauderThe states have to meet up first to see what amendments they would all agree on. Duh.
I note you didn't address the substance of my posts. Anything out of the Convention would still have to be ratified by the States anyway, so it's a waste of time. If the States favor specific amendments like the ones proposed by Levin, they should just pass them.
I thought you were the self-anointed expert of Constitutional Conventions? You do not even have to be an expert to understand the value of conventions. It is common sense. I do not know why you are wasting your time debating this.
Originally posted by MoneyManMikeGroup think is good if they think the way you want them to think. If not, then find another country to live in I suppose.
Well if 34 states agree on a specific amendment, it is likely that those 34 states will be able to convince at least 4 other states to ratify the amendment. Duh.
I do not even know why you are debating this, No1. As a lib, you are very familiar with group think. The Convention of States should make perfect sense to you.
I would much rather states have more freedom in self determination rather than being dragged by the collar with the rest of the nation.
You have to understand, No. 1 is collectivist. He thinks that everyone should be forced into a group think, so long as it is the right way to think. Collectivism is anti-democratic in this respect, as we see with approval ratings in Congress. Progressives have provided us with a Mubarak type of democracy.
For the collectivist, we can never have our utopia until everyone on the planet is under the same group think tank. That is collectivism 101.
17 Mar 14
Originally posted by no1marauderSo you claim that spending is under control? The debt will probably reach $25 trillion by the time Obama leaves office. In fact, the democrats in the Senate can't even pass a budget dingleberry.
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The deficit is far below a trillion dollars BTW. And God, if she exists, is probably richer than any retired Congressman.
I would much rather leave it to the average citizen to gauge whether Washington has a spending problem.