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    01 Apr '16 13:44
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/274848-clinton-gets-in-heated-exchange-with-environmental-activist

    Apparently Hillary is fed up with Bernie Sanders lying about her.

    Oh the irony.

    Bernie should shrug and say, "What does it matter?"
  2. Standard memberbill718
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    02 Apr '16 11:52
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/274848-clinton-gets-in-heated-exchange-with-environmental-activist

    Apparently Hillary is fed up with Bernie Sanders lying about her.

    Oh the irony.

    Bernie should shrug and say, "What does it matter?"
    I agree, it doesn't matter, so....why are you posting this at all??
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    02 Apr '16 12:00
    Originally posted by bill718
    I agree, it doesn't matter, so....why are you posting this at all??
    Lying Bernie does not matter?

    I guess only liars from the GOP matter.
  4. Standard membervivify
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    02 Apr '16 13:311 edit
    Whodey, you are a terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE poster. Goddamn terrible.

    What SPECIFICALLY did Sanders lie about?
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    05 Apr '16 18:15
    Originally posted by vivify
    Whodey, you are a terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE poster. Goddamn terrible.

    What SPECIFICALLY did Sanders lie about?
    If you check the link whodey posted, Hillary claims that the Sanders campaign lies about her environmental stances. The video doesn't specifically identify a quotation, convenient for the one denying saying..... what?
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    06 Apr '16 09:29
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    Clinton takes 4.5 million $ from oil industry
    Sanders says she takes money from oil industry
    Washington Post agrees she took 4.5 m $ from the oil industry, still calls Sanders a liar.

    Fairness in the political process.
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    06 Apr '16 16:03
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rnoxNP2rVY

    Clinton takes 4.5 million $ from oil industry
    Sanders says she takes money from oil industry
    Washington Post agrees she took 4.5 m $ from the oil industry, still calls Sanders a liar.

    Fairness in the political process.
    Do you think anyone in politics doesn't shade the truth? Doesn't take money from large donors?

    If a large industry is likely to be susceptible to present and future regulation, doesn't it make sense to see that both Presidential candidates get paid.

    The only way to get money out of politics, is to get politics out of making money.
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    06 Apr '16 19:17
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Do you think anyone in politics doesn't shade the truth? Doesn't take money from large donors?

    If a large industry is likely to be susceptible to present and future regulation, doesn't it make sense to see that both Presidential candidates get paid.

    The only way to get money out of politics, is to get politics out of making money.
    "Do you think anyone in politics doesn't shade the truth?"
    there are various degrees

    "Doesn't take money from large donors?"
    sanders doesn't


    "If a large industry is likely to be susceptible to present and future regulation, doesn't it make sense to see that both Presidential candidates get paid."
    no it doesn't. no candidate should be paid so that the future president regulates that industry based on the best interest of the people he is representing.

    "The only way to get money out of politics, is to get politics out of making money"
    that's a fortune cookie statement. sounds profound but doesn't mean anything.
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    07 Apr '16 00:24
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    "Do you think anyone in politics doesn't shade the truth?"
    there are various degrees

    "Doesn't take money from large donors?"
    sanders doesn't


    "If a large industry is likely to be susceptible to present and future regulation, doesn't it make sense to see that both Presidential candidates get paid."
    no it doesn't. no candidate should be paid so tha ...[text shortened]... of making money"
    that's a fortune cookie statement. sounds profound but doesn't mean anything.
    Any firm that doesn't pay the candidates (all of them) is gambling that the future President will not remember, and consider them an enemy.

    It is similar to the mob's protection racket.
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    07 Apr '16 08:10
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Any firm that doesn't pay the candidates (all of them) is gambling that the future President will not remember, and consider them an enemy.

    It is similar to the mob's protection racket.
    yes

    that's MY point.
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    07 Apr '16 08:58
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Any firm that doesn't pay the candidates (all of them) is gambling that the future President will not remember, and consider them an enemy.

    It is similar to the mob's protection racket.
    No they are "the mob" paying off the politicians to protect their "rackets".
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    07 Apr '16 10:21
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Any firm that doesn't pay the candidates (all of them) is gambling that the future President will not remember, and consider them an enemy.

    It is similar to the mob's protection racket.
    In a way, its the only form of democracy left.

    Just imagine those in government not giving a damn about any of us, including corporations.
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    09 Apr '16 14:19
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/274848-clinton-gets-in-heated-exchange-with-environmental-activist

    Apparently Hillary is fed up with Bernie Sanders lying about her.

    Oh the irony.

    Bernie should shrug and say, "What does it matter?"
    They have to pretend to be real competitors. They are too chummy with each other for intelligent people to believe that, hence the charade.

    Meanwhile...Sanders doesn't touch the "came saw died" slam dunk because it is all role playing. He doesn't intend on winning. He is there to keep a lid on the real and effective ammunition so we think Hillary is not the psychopath she really is.
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    10 Apr '16 16:49
    Originally posted by Metal Brain
    They have to pretend to be real competitors. They are too chummy with each other for intelligent people to believe that, hence the charade.

    Meanwhile...Sanders doesn't touch the "came saw died" slam dunk because it is all role playing. He doesn't intend on winning. He is there to keep a lid on the real and effective ammunition so we think Hillary is not the psychopath she really is.
    At some point the conspiracy theories become so ludicrous that voters start turning their attention to the blindingly obvious. So far the evidence says Sanders is what he says he is. How refreshing to establish that so many Americans are bright enough to respond to that appeal.
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    10 Apr '16 17:45
    Originally posted by whodey
    In a way, its the only form of democracy left.

    Just imagine those in government not giving a damn about any of us, including corporations.
    Did you know there are nation states other than the US?
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