@wildgrass saidThe President isn't the CEO of local school boards and state governments. They don't answer to the President. Just like local school boards can tell the Biden CDC to go to Hell and we're opening without masks, like it or not, they could also tell Trump to go to Hell and we're not opening, no matter what you say.While I don't deny that the Trump administration was awful in many respects on covid, blaming the people who (largely) didn't make the decisions for not convincing those who did is a stretch.
They didn't make decisions because they didn't want to be blamed for the fallout. The CDC is a branch of the DHHS which is an executive branch department. The buck stop ...[text shortened]... any blames the intern for the stock price. That's about the worst kind of leadership I can think of.
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@sh76 saidOh bagh. I can hear the stock price plummet as you type that. He was the leader of our country whose branch of government oversaw the CDC and he pointed fingers and squacked and rage tweeted while real leaders had to make hard decisions.
The President isn't the CEO of local school boards and state governments. They don't answer to the President. Just like local school boards can tell the Biden CDC to go to Hell and we're opening without masks, like it or not, they could also tell Trump to go to Hell and we're not opening, no matter what you say.
Look. If it's mid 2020 and your a president who truly wanted kids back in school in the fall, why did you spend all day on Twitter retweeting demagogues and memes about the fascist Democrats. Come up with a plan school boards can get behind. Guidelines. Funding. Standardize rules that public health officials can lean on that would shield them from backlash. Take some darn responsibility. Then go out and sell it to school boards.
You say you're not voting for the folks who made the wrong decision, but I can't stand the so-called leader who refuses to make any decision at all.
@sh76 saidPolitically, it's created a vicious cycle.
I'm finding more and more that the anti-vaxxers and the long covidian alarmists are the same people in the looking glass.
Both groups:
1. Rely very heavily on anecdotes ("my cousin got the vaccine last year and now he had a stroke" vs. "my niece got covid in 2020 and she still can't run a marathon" )
2. Define adverse outcomes so broadly that they can apply to almost an ...[text shortened]... e." Dems are stuck with the covidians and Reps are stuck with the anti-vaxxers.
It's sad, really.
Reminds me of the old child hood game with a name no longer politically correct. If you pick up the ball then you are tackled and beaten. So there's a part of the game where everyone stands around too scared to pick it up.
That was the COVID response.
@wildgrass saidI have no intention of ever voting for Trump for any position ever.
Oh bagh. I can hear the stock price plummet as you type that. He was the leader of our country whose branch of government oversaw the CDC and he pointed fingers and squacked and rage tweeted while real leaders had to make hard decisions.
Look. If it's mid 2020 and your a president who truly wanted kids back in school in the fall, why did you spend all day on Twitter retw ...[text shortened]... the wrong decision, but I can't stand the so-called leader who refuses to make any decision at all.
@wildgrass saidAh.
Politically, it's created a vicious cycle.
Reminds me of the old child hood game with a name no longer politically correct. If you pick up the ball then you are tackled and beaten. So there's a part of the game where everyone stands around too scared to pick it up.
That was the COVID response.
Kill the guy with the ball.
We played it too.
@sh76 saidNZ too, at lunch time, spontaneous, no planning, 200 boys 12 to 16 years old, called it scrag, no goal line, no sides, you don't chase the ball, just chase the guy with the ball, I don't recall anyone standing back and looking at the ball on the ground.
Ah.
Kill the guy with the ball.
We played it too.
@shavixmir saidNo you're wrong.
Wrong.
Every report, all experience and everybody with a dote of intelligence knows you're talking crap. Like usual.
Shag I concede that some reports paint a very rosey picture of the goobermint response, something along the lines: If you take the juice you'll be impervious to the covid, but even you must concede that is not (shag says) "Every report..."
Shag I concede that some people who took the seizure syrup have not had covid, other clot shotters have had covid and cruised through it. But you should also conced that there have been adverse reactions to the juice including death you should concede that not (shag says) "all experience" has been the same.
There are people that have adverse reactions to potatoes and when the NZ goobermint refused to acknowledge any adverse vax reactions (including deaths) the alarm bells started to ring.
As for the intelligence thing, intelligent people do not spam the same message 15 times on 15 different threads.
@wajoma saidIts offered here as an analogy to the COVID response in the USA. We have leaders who don't want the ball. Childish gaming.
NZ too, at lunch time, spontaneous, no planning, 200 boys 12 to 16 years old, called it scrag, no goal line, no sides, you don't chase the ball, just chase the guy with the ball, I don't recall anyone standing back and looking at the ball on the ground.
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@wildgrass saidExactly. Apart from a shared memory of torn school uniforms and grass stains, albeit in different countries, I was also assessing your analogy.
Its offered here as an analogy to the COVID response in the USA. We have leaders who don't want the ball. Childish gaming.
wildgrass scrag analogy: F A I L
wildgrass pointing out the obvious: P A S S
@wildgrass saidWhaddaya say, should I say the real name of the game, or will I get cancelled and lose my job?
Its offered here as an analogy to the COVID response in the USA. We have leaders who don't want the ball. Childish gaming.
@sh76 saidLol. Smear the trigger warning.
Whaddaya say, should I say the real name of the game, or will I get cancelled and lose my job?
It still seems like the purposeful failure of leaders to provide clear guidelines.to school boards and superintendents, forcing them to wing it based on the fear mongering of teachers and parents, is what caused this mess.
Blame the libs though, right?