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  1. 02 Feb '14 20:52 / 1 edit
    Much has been made of the Catholic church and their covering up of priests who abuse children, and rightly so. However, what of Hollywood?

    Recently, Woody Allen's daughter, Dylan Farrow, wrote an open letter to the New York Times blasting Woody and the Hollywood establishment for overlooking allegations that had first surfaced in 1993 which state that Woody first abused her at age 7.

    I also hearken back to the Penn State scandal. Can we safely say that as a society we are more willing to overlook child abuse if it is carried out by people whom we deem to be important? Is self interest that destructive?
  2. 02 Feb '14 21:23
    Originally posted by whodey
    Much has been made of the Catholic church and their covering up of priests who abuse children, and rightly so. However, what of Hollywood?

    Recently, Woody Allen's daughter, Dylan Farrow, wrote an open letter to the New York Times blasting Woody and the Hollywood establishment for overlooking allegations that had first surfaced in 1993 which state that Woo ...[text shortened]... if it is carried out by people whom we deem to be important? Is self interest that destructive?
    Data on both important and unimportant people would be needed to say it justifiably, but demonstrably, on this forum we can safely say just about anything without any justification at all.
  3. Standard member RBHILL
    Acts 13:48
    02 Feb '14 21:27
    Originally posted by whodey
    Much has been made of the Catholic church and their covering up of priests who abuse children, and rightly so. However, what of Hollywood?

    Recently, Woody Allen's daughter, Dylan Farrow, wrote an open letter to the New York Times blasting Woody and the Hollywood establishment for overlooking allegations that had first surfaced in 1993 which state that Woo ...[text shortened]... if it is carried out by people whom we deem to be important? Is self interest that destructive?
    Corey Feldman Has admitted to being molested but he will not name names.
  4. 02 Feb '14 21:41
    Originally posted by JS357
    Data on both important and unimportant people would be needed to say it justifiably, but demonstrably, on this forum we can safely say just about anything without any justification at all.
    Is it safe to say then the to give someone or some group of people ever expanding power then endangers us all?
  5. 03 Feb '14 05:21 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Is it safe to say then the to give someone or some group of people ever expanding power then endangers us all?
    It is safe to say any incomprehensible thing.
  6. 03 Feb '14 08:46
    Originally posted by whodey
    Much has been made of the Catholic church and their covering up of priests who abuse children, and rightly so. However, what of Hollywood?

    Recently, Woody Allen's daughter, Dylan Farrow, wrote an open letter to the New York Times blasting Woody and the Hollywood establishment for overlooking allegations that had first surfaced in 1993 which state that Woo ...[text shortened]... if it is carried out by people whom we deem to be important? Is self interest that destructive?
    yes Polanski was given support by establishment,

    More than 100 people in the film industry, including Woody Allen, Martin Scorsese, Darren Aronofsky, and David Lynch signed a petition calling for Polanski's release.

    had he been a nobody this would not have happened.
  7. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    03 Feb '14 18:37 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Much has been made of the Catholic church and their covering up of priests who abuse children, and rightly so. However, what of Hollywood?

    Recently, Woody Allen's daughter, Dylan Farrow, wrote an open letter to the New York Times blasting Woody and the Hollywood establishment for overlooking allegations that had first surfaced in 1993 which state that Woo ...[text shortened]... if it is carried out by people whom we deem to be important? Is self interest that destructive?
    Complaining about what the "Hollywood Establishment" supposedly did is pointless; such allegations should be addressed to the proper police agencies rather than to public opinion.

    Sandusky will spend the rest of his life in prison; how is that "overlooking child abuse"?
  8. 03 Feb '14 22:16
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Complaining about what the "Hollywood Establishment" supposedly did is pointless; such allegations should be addressed to the proper police agencies rather than to public opinion.

    Sandusky will spend the rest of his life in prison; how is that "overlooking child abuse"?
    But an entire university covered it up for over a decade. Only after Joe Pa had achieved his greatest number of wins as a college coach and Sandusky were done with the program did they let this surface.
  9. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    04 Feb '14 00:32
    Originally posted by whodey
    Much has been made of the Catholic church and their covering up of priests who abuse children, and rightly so. However, what of Hollywood?

    Recently, Woody Allen's daughter, Dylan Farrow, wrote an open letter to the New York Times blasting Woody and the Hollywood establishment for overlooking allegations that had first surfaced in 1993 which state that Woo ...[text shortened]... if it is carried out by people whom we deem to be important? Is self interest that destructive?
    BBC coverup.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Yewtree
  10. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    04 Feb '14 00:36
    Originally posted by whodey
    But an entire university covered it up for over a decade. Only after Joe Pa had achieved his greatest number of wins as a college coach and Sandusky were done with the program did they let this surface.
    That says exactly zero about what we as a "society" are willing to do (your original assertion). As a "society", we did not overlook the sexual abuse, but the appropriate institution, far from overlooking it, punished the abuser to the full extent of the penal law.
  11. 04 Feb '14 03:02
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    That says exactly zero about what we as a "society" are willing to do (your original assertion). As a "society", we did not overlook the sexual abuse, but the appropriate institution, far from overlooking it, punished the abuser to the full extent of the penal law.
    It shows how an entire university covered up sex abuse for over a decade.

    Do you not agree that they covered it up?
  12. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    04 Feb '14 13:04
    Originally posted by whodey
    It shows how an entire university covered up sex abuse for over a decade.

    Do you not agree that they covered it up?
    No, I don't agree the "entire university" covered it up; that is a typical, hysterical exaggeration from you.
  13. 04 Feb '14 13:47
    Originally posted by whodey
    Much has been made of the Catholic church and their covering up of priests who abuse children, and rightly so. However, what of Hollywood?
    What of it? Do you have some facts or figures relating to Hollywood paedophiles?
  14. 05 Feb '14 22:04
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    What of it? Do you have some facts or figures relating to Hollywood paedophiles?
    Michael Jackson ,say no more ....
  15. 05 Feb '14 22:46
    According to Blackburn Magistrates Court (UK), a 13 year old boy raped
    his 8 year old sister after watching pornography on his X-Box because
    he 'decided to try it out' on a girl. In another case (November 2013),
    a 12 year old boy repeatedly raped his younger sister after he watched
    pornography at school and decided to act it out at home. In that case,
    he was given a three year 'youth rehabilitation order' and will continue to
    live in his family's home (presumably near his sister).