28 Oct 19
@anderssen saidRussia doesn't have spies in Syria and Turkey? LOL!
So a country that wasn't involved is saying they have no info on it...
Got ya 👍
So let's add about 190+ more countries that don't have any info on it. 🙄
How many times did the US government claim they killed him? Russia is clearly saying it was more than once.
28 Oct 19
The post that was quoted here has been removedHow can the Russian Defense Ministry be unaware of it if there was assistance?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-baghdadi-russia-commen/russian-defense-ministry-we-are-unaware-of-alleged-assistance-in-baghdadi-operation-ria-idUSKBN1X60J4
The post that was quoted here has been removedIn fact, the USA had to notify and presumably get approval from Russia for the US special forces raid. Russia tends to control the air space in that area.
Russia also "tends" to dictate every move Donald Trump makes. I've never seen anyone bend over backwards to accommodate Vladimir Putin like Trump does. I'd sure like to find out what's in those tax returns, and how much Russian mob money was laundered through the Trump organization. There is much that remains hidden.
28 Oct 19
@mchill saidJohn Conyers was a Russian asset and there are a lot more democrats kissing Russian ass than that.
In fact, the USA had to notify and presumably get approval from Russia for the US special forces raid. Russia tends to control the air space in that area.
Russia also "tends" to dictate every move Donald Trump makes. I've never seen anyone bend over backwards to accommodate Vladimir Putin like Trump does. I'd sure like to find out what's in those tax returns, and how much Russian mob money was laundered through the Trump organization. There is much that remains hidden.
ISIS Leader Al-Baghdadi Reported Dead — for at Least the 7th Time in 12 Years
https://themindunleashed.com/2019/10/isis-leader-al-baghdadi-reported-dead.html?fbclid=IwAR2zSDQ1mWTzpuQMiXHp6kSNaQwTDWMyC9QYrh6AITy7c99V_OHp9JnBlCQ
He is like a cat and has nine lives. We might have to kill him a couple more times.
30 Oct 19
@metal-brain saidThey did not say that they didn't permit the flight, they said that they did not provide assistance. Not shooting the helicopter down comes under the heading of not preventing the operation, it is not the same as assisting it. Regarding the second Reuter's article, when the Russians say: "The Russian Ministry of Defence has no reliable information..." that means that the GRU do not have at least two accounts from intelligence sources that are not pathological liars - the FSB, which is not under the Ministry of Defence, may well have.
How can the Russian Defense Ministry be unaware of it if there was assistance?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-baghdadi-russia-commen/russian-defense-ministry-we-are-unaware-of-alleged-assistance-in-baghdadi-operation-ria-idUSKBN1X60J4
The American's are saying he was buried at sea. There are three possibilities, first they are lieing and he's not dead, second they are mistaken and the corpse was not, in fact, Bagdadi, and the third possibility is that he's dead and buried. There's no clear reason for them to lie, although with Trump in power that type of argument loses a certain amount of force. The second possibility is somewhat more credible; after a military operation where high explosives are involved working out which bit of corpse belongs to which person and who they all are can, I imagine, present some challenges.
I haven't followed this closely and do not know what grounds there are for thinking it is Baghdadi. That they are talking about a burial makes it more likely that they got him - is this also the 7th time he's been buried at sea by the US military?
30 Oct 19
@deepthought saidI understand that the US military has these small DNA analyzers, currently they have one down to 200 lbs that they can have right there on site in a helo, connected wirelessly to database servers back in the States. I imagine they did test samples and concluded they got him based on that.
They did not say that they didn't permit the flight, they said that they did not provide assistance. Not shooting the helicopter down comes under the heading of not preventing the operation, it is not the same as assisting it. Regarding the second Reuter's article, when the Russians say: "The Russian Ministry of Defence has no reliable information..." that means ...[text shortened]... ore likely that they got him - is this also the 7th time he's been buried at sea by the US military?
@deepthought saidThere have been articles saying he might not exist.
They did not say that they didn't permit the flight, they said that they did not provide assistance. Not shooting the helicopter down comes under the heading of not preventing the operation, it is not the same as assisting it. Regarding the second Reuter's article, when the Russians say: "The Russian Ministry of Defence has no reliable information..." that means ...[text shortened]... ore likely that they got him - is this also the 7th time he's been buried at sea by the US military?
https://www.huffingtonpost.in/smubashir-noor/does-isis-leader-al-baghdadi-exist_a_21457864/
There are articles saying Bin Laden was dead long before Obama claimed credit for killing him.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/jan/19/afghanistan.oliverburkeman
Both buried at sea so nobody can confirm the bodies are who they say they are. It just so happens that they have both been killed multiple times.
https://www.corbettreport.com/osama-bin-laden-pronounced-dead-for-the-ninth-time/
I have no idea when these guys were killed, but can you blame people for being skeptical?
Elvis died yesterday and he was buried at sea.