30 Jun 08
Since Chavez took the oath of office at the beginning of 1999, there has been an unprecedented surge in anti-Semitism throughout Venezuela, says Travis Pantin. Why are Chavez and his supporters in the grips of anti-Semitic bigotry?
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/hugo-chavez-s-jewish-problem-11455
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterProbably for the same reason that you engage in gay bigotry, and support homophobic view points
Since Chavez took the oath of office at the beginning of 1999, there has been an unprecedented surge in anti-Semitism throughout Venezuela, says Travis Pantin. Why are Chavez and his supporters in the grips of anti-Semitic bigotry?
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/hugo-chavez-s-jewish-problem-11455
Hi kettle, meet mr. pot
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by duecerYour argument is all nonsense. Since there are two sides to every debate, how can you promote gay tolerance, but it be "bigoted" of me to promote the counter argument? By your own logic then, you must be hetero-bigot. Also, although I may be against gay "marriage," I've never promoted violence against homosexuals. And unlike Hugo Chavez, I don't have the power of the state at my disposal to bludgeon opponents or to raid Jewish social centers.
Probably for the same reason that you engage in gay bigotry, and support homophobic view points
Hi kettle, meet mr. pot
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterTHe article, while quite rightly showing up the poison of antisemitism in Venezuela, fails to give any evidence to support the central point - that there has been an 'unprecedented surge' in antisemitism.
Since Chavez took the oath of office at the beginning of 1999, there has been an unprecedented surge in anti-Semitism throughout Venezuela, says Travis Pantin. Why are Chavez and his supporters in the grips of anti-Semitic bigotry?
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/hugo-chavez-s-jewish-problem-11455
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by der schwarze Ritteryou're grasping at straws, I stand by what I said, and the readers here have more than once read of your bias and ignorance against the gay community. You condone discrimination against a certain segment of the population, but decry it for others...hypocrate
Your argument is all nonsense. Since there are two sides to every debate, how can you promote gay tolerance, but it be "bigoted" of me to promote the counter argument? By your own logic then, you must be hetero-bigot. Also, although I may be against gay "marriage," I've never promoted violence against homosexuals. And unlike Hugo Chavez, I don't ...[text shortened]... power of the state at my disposal to bludgeon opponents or to raid Jewish social centers.
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by RedmikeYou're right Redmike. Compared to all the anti-Semitism going on in Europe, the Venezuelan brand is tepid at best.
THe article, while quite rightly showing up the poison of antisemitism in Venezuela, fails to give any evidence to support the central point - that there has been an 'unprecedented surge' in antisemitism.
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by duecerDiscrimination? Clearly you're the one grasping at straws since gays had the same rights I did throughout the United States before the crazy, upside down rulings in Mass., N.J. and California: They could marry a person of the opposite sex provided neither was related or already married to another. For some people it seems, equality is not good enough.
you're grasping at straws, I stand by what I said, and the readers here have more than once read of your bias and ignorance against the gay community. You condone discrimination against a certain segment of the population, but decry it for others...hypocrate
30 Jun 08
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Originally posted by der schwarze RitterIt isn't about the amount of antisemitism, it is about the change in the amount of antisemitism.
You're right Redmike. Compared to all the anti-Semitism going on in Europe, the Venezuelan brand is tepid at best.
If the author can't show a link between Chavez being elected and antisemitism increasing (and they don't), then the article is doing nothing more than documenting the current anti-semitism in Venezuela.
Where's the evidence that antisemitism increased as Chavez got elected?
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by der schwarze Ritterthey still have the same rights as you in mass. you are now entitled to marry a man if you wish, just as they are. How does giving them the right to marry the person they love somehow lesson your rights?
Discrimination? Clearly you're the one grasping at straws since gays had the same rights I did throughout the United States before the crazy, upside down rulings in Mass., N.J. and California: They could marry a person of the opposite sex provided neither was related or already married to another. For some people it seems, equality is not good enough.
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by duecerYour attempt to hi-jack the thread has not gone unnoticed. Go start your own.
they still have the same rights as you in mass. you are now entitled to marry a man if you wish, just as they are. How does giving them the right to marry the person they love somehow lesson your rights?
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by shavixmir• Graffiti, often bearing the signature of the Venezuelan Communist party and its youth organization, have appeared on synagogues and Jewish buildings, with messages like “mata niños” (“child killers&rdquo😉, “judios afuera” (“Jews get out&rdquo😉, “judios perros” (“Jews are dogs&rdquo😉, and swastikas linked to stars of David by an equals sign.
Just respond to Red Mike's question, please.
• Sammy Eppel, a columnist for the independent Caracas newspaper El Universal, has documented hundreds of instances of anti-Semitism in government media. To take one particularly noxious example, in September 2006 El Diario de Caracas, until recently one of the country’s most important papers, published an editorial containing these fiery words:
Let us pay attention to the behavior of the Israeli-Zionist associations, unions, and federations that are conspiring in Venezuela to take control of our finances, our industries, commerce, construction—which are infiltrating our government and politics. Possibly we will have to expel them from our country . . . as other nations have done.
• On television, Mario Silva, the host of a popular pro-Chávez show called La Hojilla (“The Razor Blade&rdquo😉, has repeatedly named prominent Venezuelan Jews as anti-government conspirators and called on other Jews to denounce them. “Rabbi Jacobo Benzaquén and Rabbi Pynchas Brener are actively participating in the conspiracy in conjunction with the media,” Silva has said. “So as not to be called an anti-Semite,” he added, “I repeat that those Jewish businessmen not involved in the conspiracy should say so.”
• Armed government agents have conducted two unannounced raids on the Hebraica club during the past five years. The first occurred during the early morning hours of November 29, 2004, when two dozen men wearing masks invaded the elementary school just as pupils were arriving for class. In the second, which came shortly after midnight on December 2, 2007, government agents broke through the front gate and disrupted hundreds of celebrants at a wedding party in the nearby synagogue. In each case, allegedly, the agents were looking for weapons and other evidence of “subversive activity.”
• The last few years have seen the creation of a terrorist group in Venezuela calling itself Hizballah in Latin America. The group has already claimed responsibility for placing two small bombs outside the American embassy in Caracas in October 2006—one of them, it is thought, intended for the embassy of Israel. Although neither of the two bombs detonated, the group’s website hailed the man who planted them as a “brother mujahedin” and has urged other, simultaneous attacks throughout Venezuela in solidarity with Hizballah in Lebanon.
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterYes, we've seen that.
• Graffiti, often bearing the signature of the Venezuelan Communist party and its youth organization, have appeared on synagogues and Jewish buildings, with messages like “mata niños” (“child killers&rdquo😉, “judios afuera” (“Jews get out&rdquo😉, “judios perros” (“Jews are dogs&rdquo😉, and swastikas linked to stars of David by an equals sign.
• Sammy Eppe ...[text shortened]... urged other, simultaneous attacks throughout Venezuela in solidarity with Hizballah in Lebanon.
It is appalling antisemitism.
But where's the evidence of an 'unprecedented surge'?