11 May 06
Yet again someone has been murdered by a dangerous serial criminal who was released from jail because the authorities feared prosecution under the so-called 'Human Rights Charter' ( to which our whiz-kid PM has signed up} if they detained him longer, despite the fact that they knew he was a continuing danger to the public.
Likewise, because of the same legislation, we are unable to deport convicted foreign terrorists despite Blair's bluster about 'getting tough' with them.
How much longer will the British people meekly tolerate such criminal folly on the part of yet another failed Labour government?
11 May 06
Originally posted by NargagunaLink, evidence, coroboration, details....
Yet again someone has been murdered by a dangerous serial criminal who was released from jail because the authorities feared prosecution under the so-called 'Human Rights Charter' ( to which our whiz-kid PM has signed up} if they detained him longer, despite the fact that they knew he was a continuing danger to the public.
Likewise, because of the same l ...[text shortened]... e meekly tolerate such criminal folly on the part of yet another failed Labour government?
11 May 06
Originally posted by NargagunaAlso, there are nine Afghans on the loose in the UK after a judge enforced the Human Rights Act and granted them asylum, even though they got here by hijacking a plane in 2000.
Yet again someone has been murdered by a dangerous serial criminal who was released from jail because the authorities feared prosecution under the so-called 'Human Rights Charter' ( to which our whiz-kid PM has signed up} if they detained him longer, despite the fact that they knew he was a continuing danger to the public.
Likewise, because of the same l ...[text shortened]... e meekly tolerate such criminal folly on the part of yet another failed Labour government?
"Human Rights" are solely for the protection of criminals, and not for the protection of victims.
12 May 06
Originally posted by NargagunaThe same problem exists here in the US. Child molesting pigs get a little counseling and a few years of prison, then they get out and have some fun with little kids again. It's disgusting.
Yet again someone has been murdered by a dangerous serial criminal who was released from jail because the authorities feared prosecution under the so-called 'Human Rights Charter' ( to which our whiz-kid PM has signed up} if they detained him longer, despite the fact that they knew he was a continuing danger to the public.
Likewise, because of the same l ...[text shortened]... e meekly tolerate such criminal folly on the part of yet another failed Labour government?
And I believe we here call these 'Human Rights' of yours, the 'Civil Rights Laws', which contradict the Constitution. I was in hot water the other day for saying the word "fag" here at my high school. It is considered a violation of civil liberties according to Mass law.. So I guess the First Ammendment of freedom of speech just went out the window. YAY!😀
13 May 06
Originally posted by IorekLooks like that sort of twisted thinking is embedded in certain sections of society on both sides of the Atlantic.
The same problem exists here in the US. Child molesting pigs get a little counseling and a few years of prison, then they get out and have some fun with little kids again. It's disgusting.
And I believe we here call these 'Human Rights' of yours, the 'Civil Rights Laws', which contradict the Constitution. I was in hot water the other day for saying the word ...[text shortened]... w.. So I guess the First Ammendment of freedom of speech just went out the window. YAY!😀
I believe you call them 'Democrats'; we have two flavours, Socialists and Lib.Dems.
13 May 06
Originally posted by NargagunaThe nine Afghani’s, are not terrorists or paedophiles or murders. They are normal people who because of greedy and immoral politicians in the west, ended up living under a cruel and harsh regime for a long, long time until.
Yet again someone has been murdered by a dangerous serial criminal who was released from jail because the authorities feared prosecution under the so-called 'Human Rights Charter' ( to which our whiz-kid PM has signed up} if they detained him longer, despite the fact that they knew he was a continuing danger to the public.
Likewise, because of the same l ...[text shortened]... e meekly tolerate such criminal folly on the part of yet another failed Labour government?
Then praise be, some other greedy and immoral politicians in the west decided that they needed an oil pipeline in Afghanistan and because now the Naughty Taliban, weren’t, playing ball the politicians decided to have a war.
The media tells you to be scared of the ‘foreign problem’, but how many members of your family or your friends or your friends have been attacked raped molested or mugged by lets face it the most mistreated and misunderstood people in the world.
The Asylum problem has been created by the West and now the Politicians want to wash their hands of it.
Your comments clearly indicate, that you do not have any actual knowledge of the human rights movement and actually believe the rubbish, the media is feeding you. May I suggest you visit the following site and actually find out for your self what the human rights are before you make such bold statements.
http://www.echr.coe.int/echr
13 May 06
Originally posted by twenty6Actually, I did not mention the 9 Afghans who highjacked a plane and threatened to kill the passengers but you must have a twisted sense of humour if you consider them 'normal' people.
The nine Afghani’s, are not terrorists or paedophiles or murders. They are normal people who because of greedy and immoral politicians in the west, ended up living under a cruel and harsh regime for a long, long time until.
Then praise be, some other greedy and immoral politicians in the west decided that they needed an oil pipeline in Afghanistan and ...[text shortened]... what the human rights are before you make such bold statements.
http://www.echr.coe.int/echr
13 May 06
Originally posted by IorekThat's like saying my freedom of movement is being restricted by not having the right to punch you in the face.
I was in hot water the other day for saying the word "fag" here at my high school. It is considered a violation of civil liberties according to Mass law.. So I guess the First Ammendment of freedom of speech just went out the window. YAY!😀
13 May 06
Originally posted by NargagunaNormal people can be driven to do extreme things by situation. If your family were starving, would you not steal bread? If your family were being attacked would you not defend them? I am not condoning the actions of the hijackers but they are understandable in the circumstances. Just because you have never had it bad (and do not pretend you have had it as bad as those men and their families and most of the people in Afghanistan), doesnt mean you can preach to them.
Actually, I did not mention the 9 Afghans who highjacked a plane and threatened to kill the passengers but you must have a twisted sense of humour if you consider them 'normal' people.
13 May 06
Originally posted by NargagunaThis is the flaw in the radical Islamic movement. They think that through killing and threatening and breaking laws that they will further their cause. They think that they are justified in doing so because they are of greater moral character than their Western infedel counterparts. They may begin as greater moral character, but soon succumb to the same tactics of the ones they hate. The tactic that I refer to is "might makes right". They begin to try and manipulate governments and populations in much the same way as they view their enemies as doing. They rationalize their evil behavior by thinking that Allah wills it. The tactics that seem most effective, however, seem to be the ones instituted by such people as Christ, Ghandi, and Martin Luther King to name a few. They recongnized that violence was not the only tactic nor is it the most effective or desirable. They realized that by the shear weight of their moral "rightness" that they would eventually win as long as they did not pollute their moral superiority via violence and murder and other immoral pursuits. As a Christian I can tell you that such violent tactics will tarnish your moral position and erode your religious cause. A good example are the "Crusades". Till this day, Christians and Westerners are referred to as "Crusaders". They were a group of misdirected zealots that have tarnished the cause of Christ through the centuries because they acted on their own purogative in the name of God. May God have mercy on their souls.
Actually, I did not mention the 9 Afghans who highjacked a plane and threatened to kill the passengers but you must have a twisted sense of humour if you consider them 'normal' people.
13 May 06
Originally posted by whodeyActually, this is the flaw in the thinking of most people that try to alleviate their own sense of inadequacy by assuming that their own view of the universe is the correct one.
This is the flaw in the radical Islamic movement. They think that through killing and threatening and breaking laws that they will further their cause. They think that they are justified in doing so because they are of greater moral character than their Western infedel counterparts. They may begin as greater moral character, but soon succumb to the same ta ...[text shortened]... ey acted on their own purogative in the name of God. May God have mercy on their souls.
The Afghans, as noted, hijacked a plane.
It is therefore assumed that they were Islamic fundamentalists hell bent on killing innocent civilians, especially women and children. There are probably all sorts of mental images that come to mind, allowing those that behave like sheep to feel extremely angry and conclude that western society is being invaded by unruly hoards from the east.
The hijack was a rather amateur attempt by a group of desperate men from Afghanistan to escape from their country and enter the UK. They also apologized to the passengers and nobody was hurt.
Though this kind of behavior shouldn't be condoned, neither should sensationalizing a story in order to spread hate (I'm not saying you have done this but thats what this thread, along with others before it, are written for in my view)