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  1. 09 Feb '17 02:20
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/08/idaho-judge-rape-social-media-twin-falls

    "Idaho judge says rape is 'a direct consequence of the social media system':
    "After issuing an unusual probation sentence for a man who raped a
    14-year-old girl, Judge Randy J Stoker delivered a sermon on modern-day morality."

    "An Idaho judge who said a man who raped a 14-year-old girl could
    be released on probation if he agreed not to have sex outside of
    wedlock also linked the case to a breakdown of morality in the social
    media age, adding: “If I had my way, I would eliminate the internet.”

    The unusual requirement that a convict remain celibate as a condition
    of probation received widespread attention this week, after segments
    of Judge Randy J Stoker’s ruling were made public."

    "The extramarital celibacy requirement is highly unusual but has some
    statutory basis in conservative Idaho, where premarital sex is still
    technically a crime, although the statute banning “fornication” is rarely
    if ever enforced.

    Twin Falls prosecuting attorney Grant P Loebs said the sex offender’s
    compliance with the no-sex rule would be tested via polygraph. “The
    probation officer whose job it is to make sure you’re not a threat to the
    community will ask you ... have you been doing this or this or this?” he
    said. “That’s the way those conditions are checked. Not by spying on someone."

    Stoker said in court that he could have sentenced Cody D Herrera to
    life in prison for raping the 14-year-old girl in 2015. Instead, he sent
    the 20-year-old to a treatment program run by the Idaho prison system.
    If Herrera completes the program within a year, he will be placed on probation.
    But if he violates the conditions of his probation, Stoker said, he will
    be sentenced to as much as 15 years in prison.

    In handing down his striking judgement last month, Stoker imposed
    the additional condition of celibacy outside of marriage, and also
    railed against what he suggested was today’s hook-up culture. He
    questioned Herrera’s level of remorse and noted the young man’s
    proclivities – a taste for pornography, an astounding number of
    partners, and fantasies of sex with a 13-year-old girl."

    "According to court documents, Herrera and the victim met in 2014.
    He was 17 at the time. The girl told him she was 16. They hung out
    with friends, went to the mall, and communicated via Facebook. But
    when her mother found out about the relationship, she tried to put a
    stop to it.

    The mother called Herrera and Herrera’s mother. She explained that
    her child was only 14, too young to have a boyfriend. But Herrera and
    the girl continued their online relationship.

    On 2 March 2015, Herrera snuck into the girl’s bedroom, ostensibly to
    watch a movie with her. He began to fondle the girl. She asked him to
    stop. He then raped her without wearing a condom.

    Not long after, according to the affidavit of Twin Falls police detective
    Benjamin Mittelstadt, Herrera heard a rumor that the girl was
    pregnant. He called her mother to find out, in a conversation that was
    later downloaded from the woman’s phone.

    “During this conversation Mr Herrera admitted to knowing that [the
    girl] was underage,” Mittelstadt said, “and stated he did not want to be
    stuck behind bars being raped and stabbed for what had happened.”

    The girl’s mother told Stoker in the Twin Falls courtroom that her
    family fell prey to a manipulative “predator”. Herrera did not just rape
    her daughter, the woman said, but he also harassed and threatened
    the young girl and her friends and relatives.

    “It was his intent from the beginning to take what he wanted from my
    14-year-old child – her virginity – and he stayed around until he got it
    from her,” she told Stoker. “Cody will never understand what he has
    done to our family. Cody robbed her of her innocence. He destroyed
    the child left in her. This can never be returned.” "

    Judge Stoker seems ignorant of the reality that some men fantasized
    about having sex with 13 year old (or younger) girls before the internet.
    Vladimir Nabokov's novel _Lolita_ was published in 1955.

    Judge Stoker also condemns a young man (now age 20) for already
    having had 'sexual encounters' with 34 individuals. What would the
    extremely conservative Judge Stoker say about President Trump, who
    has boasted of having enjoyed many sexual conquests of women,
    beginning from an early age (perhaps when he was in high school)?
  2. Standard member vivify
    rain
    09 Feb '17 04:26
    Let me take a wild guess...the guy being let off the hook for rape is a white male, right?
  3. Subscriber FreakyKBH
    Acquired Taste...
    09 Feb '17 04:52
    Originally posted by vivify
    Let me take a wild guess...the guy being let off the hook for rape is a white male, right?
    Don't you dare apologize for him!
  4. 09 Feb '17 11:06
    The judge is most likely a mormon.
  5. 09 Feb '17 11:23 / 1 edit
    It was statutory rape which means the girl most likely was a willing participant.

    He was just too old for her. I think he was 19 and she was 14. If the guy was also 14 it would not be considered rape at all.
  6. 09 Feb '17 12:19
    Originally posted by Eladar
    It was statutory rape which means the girl most likely was a willing participant.

    He was just too old for her. I think he was 19 and she was 14. If the guy was also 14 it would not be considered rape at all.
    what part of "she asked him to stop" didn't you get? do you have any evidence that is not true? or you're being a scumbag again?
  7. 09 Feb '17 12:23
    ugh this is going to be another thread were despicable human beings defend a despicable judge's act of letting a despicable rapist go free.


    no1marauder should be here any minute saying it's alright because the judge acted within legal limits.
  8. 09 Feb '17 15:30
    Voting for judges. Great idea. Keep doing it, America, we want more of these headlines.
  9. 09 Feb '17 15:39 / 1 edit
    Unfortunately for many activists, this case isn't quite as egregious as certain activists would like to claim. First, statutory rape is quite different from traditional rape.
    The last paragraph of the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/06/us/sex-marriage-ban-idaho-man.html?_r=0article) "The age of consent in Idaho is 18. Though the state does not use the term “statutory rape,” Mr. Herrera’s rape charge is based on a subsection of the law related to age, Mr. Loebs said" (prosecutor)
    Furthermore, "the girl told the authorities that she had lied and told him she was 16 when she met him in 2014, according to The Times-News. He was 17 at the time." Many people would feel a 17 year old and 16 year old together sexually is not a big deal.
    Finally, she accused told authorities that she "asked him to stop when he touched her breasts. But he continued, removing both of their clothes and sexually assaulting her."

    I'm not sure what the punishment should be for sexual assault or whether this is an appropriate punishment. But a mandated six month rehabilitation program and the option of probation based on his success in the program could be more appropriate than 5 to 15 years or jail.
  10. Subscriber FreakyKBH
    Acquired Taste...
    09 Feb '17 15:40
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    what part of "she asked him to stop" didn't you get? do you have any evidence that is not true? or you're being a scumbag again?
    No one has anything more than what made it into the news--- except for the two people involved.
    We have a pretty good idea, however, that she was at least interested enough to:
    1.) lie about her age; and,
    2.) continue with the relationship despite her mother's objections--- enough even, to secret him into her bedroom that night.

    He was 17 at the time. The girl told him she was 16. They hung out
    with friends, went to the mall, and communicated via Facebook. But
    when her mother found out about the relationship, she tried to put a
    stop to it.
  11. Subscriber FreakyKBH
    Acquired Taste...
    09 Feb '17 15:47
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Voting for judges. Great idea. Keep doing it, America, we want more of these headlines.
    One way or another, a vote is going to determine who holds the position.
    Your sneering rancor for all things American is a clear signal you lack respect for any authority, foreign or domestic.
    If you think governing is as easy as the strategics of video games targeting underdeveloped mentalities, you should run for office.
  12. 09 Feb '17 16:33
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    One way or another, a vote is going to determine who holds the position.
    An appointment is not a "vote."
  13. 09 Feb '17 17:01
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    what part of "she asked him to stop" didn't you get? do you have any evidence that is not true? or you're being a scumbag again?
    Were you there?
  14. 09 Feb '17 17:06
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Voting for judges. Great idea. Keep doing it, America, we want more of these headlines.
    Unfortunately, having judges appointed in the U.S. is probably even worse.
  15. Subscriber FreakyKBH
    Acquired Taste...
    09 Feb '17 17:27
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    An appointment is not a "vote."
    Do you read the things you type?
    An appointment is nothing more, nothing less than a vote.

    You're like a kid who gets taught checkers and promptly challenges others to a game of chess.