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... IF THE HUNDEREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT INVADING IRAQ, AND POSSIBLY IRAN, WERE SPENT ON RESEARCH INTO ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF ENERGY INSTEAD ...

HOW DIFFERENT WOULD THE WORLD BE ?

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Originally posted by Sambo69
... IF THE HUNDEREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT INVADING IRAQ, AND POSSIBLY IRAN, WERE SPENT ON RESEARCH INTO ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF ENERGY INSTEAD ...

HOW DIFFERENT WOULD THE WORLD BE ?
Stang? Is that you?

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Originally posted by Esoteric
Stang? Is that you?
I prefer not to be associated with STANG. Can you answer the question ... what do you imagine ?

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Originally posted by Sambo69
I prefer not to be associated with STANG. Can you answer the question ... what do you imagine ?
Ok Stang, simple answer is that Bush will not invest money into something that doesn't make his pockets fatter. Why invest money into an alternative for oil, when you can invade who you like and just take theirs and worry about the consequences later.

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Originally posted by Esoteric
Ok Stang, simple answer is that Bush will not invest money into something that doesn't make his pockets fatter. Why invest money into an alternative for oil, when you can invade who you like and just take theirs and worry about the consequences later.
Wouldn't that make it fair to expect more 9/11's ?

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Originally posted by Sambo69
Wouldn't that make it fair to expect more 9/11's ?
Why was 9/11 about oil? i dont remember America invading an oil rich country before 9/11.

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Originally posted by davidtravelling
Why was 9/11 about oil? i dont remember America invading an oil rich country before 9/11.
I didn't say whether 9/11 was about oil or not.

Invading Iraq has bred more terrorists.

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What about those just arrested in Canada? Canada hasnt got a military presence in Iraq but that didnt stop terrorists viewing them as a legitimate target.

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Originally posted by davidtravelling
What about those just arrested in Canada? Canada hasnt got a military presence in Iraq but that didnt stop terrorists viewing them as a legitimate target.
Bush has bred anti-western sentiment.

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Anyway ... what about a reply to the opening post ?

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There was anti west sentiment long before George Bush was in power.

There was recently an article in the Times about how France was terrified of a terrorist attack before the world cup 1998 that it considered kidnapping Abu Hamza (who was seen as a demagogic threat who would inspire attacks) from the street of London.

There were attacks on British Embassies in Africa (remember the missle strikes into Afghanistan order by President Clinton at the height of the Lewinski scandal).

Bush hasnt helped (personally i think the way that 9/11 and the "war on terror" has been turned into an us and them scenario is more damaging than Iraq) but this conflict has much longer history than Bush, going back to the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan and beyond and supplimented by a lack of freedom in Islamic states, the failure of western immigrants to integrate, the failure of western societies to accept immigrants the way they should and other factors.

To reduce all this complicated history to statements attacking just one person's (Bush) part in all this and trying to blame it all on him shows as much lack of understanding about the issue as Bush himself has and does nothing to solve the issue.

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You are assuming a lack of understanding. There will be peace when we hold those in power accountable.

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When we hold those in power accountable? Such as Saddam Hussein? I thought that we were doing that at the moment.

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Originally posted by davidtravelling
When we hold those in power accountable? Such as Saddam Hussein? I thought that we were doing that at the moment.
Our own leaders stupid.

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But we can hold our leaders accountable. Its called the Ballot Box. If we dont like their decisions then we vote them out of power.

The people of Iraq, China, North Korea, they dont have that luxury.