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Impeachment, should you do it?

Impeachment, should you do it?

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The tl;dr version for people who just can't get themselves to watch a 20 minute video because it's too long, or it's on youtube or because john olliver is talking:

Impeachment won't remove Trump from office. No way in hell will 20 republican senators vote yes. What it will do is get everyone on the record on what side of the argument they are, show exactly what republican politician thinks presidents should be allowed to obstruct justice without consequences. What it will do is show that presidents just can't do whatever the fuk they want. What it will do is show americans that democrats are willing to do the right thing, not what is politically safe.

Trump asked McGahn to fire Mueller. Trump asked witnesses to ignore subpeonas. Trump profits from being president. Trump admits that in 2020 he would gladly accept foreign aid against his opponent.
These are impeachable offenses. He should be impeached.


@zahlanzi said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxT8CM8XntA

The tl;dr version for people who just can't get themselves to watch a 20 minute video because it's too long, or it's on youtube or because john olliver is talking:

Impeachment won't remove Trump from office. No way in hell will 20 republican senators vote yes. What it will do is get everyone on the record on what side of the ...[text shortened]... y accept foreign aid against his opponent.
These are impeachable offenses. He should be impeached.
This post gets no argument from me.
Democratic timidity has been disappointing.


@zahlanzi said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxT8CM8XntA

The tl;dr version for people who just can't get themselves to watch a 20 minute video because it's too long, or it's on youtube or because john olliver is talking:

Impeachment won't remove Trump from office. No way in hell will 20 republican senators vote yes. What it will do is get everyone on the record on what side of the ...[text shortened]... y accept foreign aid against his opponent.
These are impeachable offenses. He should be impeached.
You are on a mission to prove you are a complete idiot arent you?


I was against impeachment at first, because I thought it would just add to Trump's god-complex ("I can shoot someone in broad daylight and still not lose supporters" ). Impeachment would be merely symbolic. His based will be even stronger after he beats it, and Republicans will hold Trump as a kind of martyr.

But, history will remember he was impeached, and why. If Trump isn't impeached, it will be used as a reason not to impeach future presidents who need to be removed from office.


@wolfe63 said
This post gets no argument from me.
Democratic timidity has been disappointing.
That is what happens whey you twist the truth and are cowards.

But according to the polls, which is the god of Progressivism, it seems to be working now so they won't impeach him and risk harming their precious poll numbers.


@zahlanzi said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxT8CM8XntA

The tl;dr version for people who just can't get themselves to watch a 20 minute video because it's too long, or it's on youtube or because john olliver is talking:

Impeachment won't remove Trump from office. No way in hell will 20 republican senators vote yes. What it will do is get everyone on the record on what side of the ...[text shortened]... y accept foreign aid against his opponent.
These are impeachable offenses. He should be impeached.
So you want Pence as POTUS?


@metal-brain said
So you want Pence as POTUS?
Trump promised to drain "the swamp".
Now, Democrats need to drain his "cess pool".


@vivify said
I was against impeachment at first, because I thought it would just add to Trump's god-complex ("I can shoot someone in broad daylight and still not lose supporters" ). Impeachment would be merely symbolic. His based will be even stronger after he beats it, and Republicans will hold Trump as a kind of martyr.

But, history will remember he was impeached, and why. If Tr ...[text shortened]... ed, it will be used as a reason not to impeach future presidents who need to be removed from office.
If we were to impeach every member of Congress, the Supreme Court and the President who are corrupt and should be impeached over half the people in those positions would be impeached.


@metal-brain said
So you want Pence as POTUS?
No, he just wants to bitch and whine like the spineless Dims do.

Pathetic one and all.

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what exactly is Trump guilty of? the question no one can answer! here is your chance to be the hero...name the crime!


@eladar said
If we were to impeach every member of Congress, the Supreme Court and the President who are corrupt and should be impeached over half the people in those positions would be impeached.
We're not talking about every member of Congress. We're talking about the single most powerful office in America.


@mott-the-hoople said
what exactly is Trump guilty of? the question no one can answer! here is your chance to be the hero...name the crime!
Obstruction.


John Oliver made a strong case for impeachment.

Not to remove the president, perse, but to draw the line on what’s acceptable behaviour and what not.


@vivify said
We're not talking about every member of Congress. We're talking about the single most powerful office in America.
I am talking about impeaching everyone who is corrupt not just cherry picking.