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mbakunin
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was anybody else struck by the contrast to the previous inauguration? i was quite amazed by the enthusiasm shown by the enormous crowds. can't remember having seen that last time around.

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Originally posted by mbakunin
was anybody else struck by the contrast to the previous inauguration? i was quite amazed by the enthusiasm shown by the enormous crowds. can't remember having seen that last time around.
I think in 1980 there was a similar sense that new times have come.


...and come they did, with venom!

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I don't recall, though, that Reagan was as wildly popular with the masses the way Obama is. 29 years may certainly have clouded my memory. There was, after all, the release of the hostages and a general sense of relief that tangible change was about to happen.

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"On this day, we come to proclaim an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our politics. "
"We remain a young nation, but in the words of Scripture, the time has come to set aside childish things. The time has come to reaffirm our enduring spirit; to choose our better history; to carry forward that precious gift, that noble idea, passed on from generation to generation: the God-given promise that all are equal, all are free, and all deserve a chance to pursue their full measure of happiness. "

"For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus - and non-believers. We are shaped by every language and culture, drawn from every end of this Earth; and because we have tasted the bitter swill of civil war and segregation, and emerged from that dark chapter stronger and more united, we cannot help but believe that the old hatreds shall someday pass; that the lines of tribe shall soon dissolve; that as the world grows smaller, our common humanity shall reveal itself; and that America must play its role in ushering in a new era of peace"
"To the people of poor nations, we pledge to work alongside you to make your farms flourish and let clean waters flow; to nourish starved bodies and feed hungry minds. And to those nations like ours that enjoy relative plenty, we say we can no longer afford indifference to suffering outside our borders; nor can we consume the world's resources without regard to effect. For the world has changed, and we must change with it."
" This is the meaning of our liberty and our creed - why men and women and children of every race and every faith can join in celebration across this magnificent mall, and why a man whose father less than sixty years ago might not have been served at a local restaurant can now stand before you to take a most sacred oath." President Obama


I have to say as an Indigenous American it has been a long long time since I have had hope for my people, the true first people of the USA.
Today I can no longer hold back the tears. I see hope, I see the chance of an Indigenous American one day taking the office of the President. I see the possiblity of change not only for the Indigenous but for all Americans. Reaching out for the first time in ages to others of all beliefs of all world nations. Today I proudly will wear a Feather for Obama. I proudly wear what I though I could not no longer take pride in. Being An American, being a decendant of men of honor who founded this land to day I dedicate it to Cochise my great great grandfather, Geronimo my great grandfather and my beloved grandmother Osa Osa Natchuma Cochise who taught me to embrass all my nationalities not just the Chiricahua Apache one but the German Jew. Today is dedicated to all my family who did not make it out alive of the holocost. To my mother who suffered in the camps as a child.
Today is a day I will hold dear to my heart.
Today is History

"I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.”

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of “interposition” and “nullification” — one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; “and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together.” Dr Martin Luther King Jr.

Today The first steps of that dream came

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Originally posted by lostapache
"On this day, we come to proclaim an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our politics. "
"We remain a young nation, but in the words of Scripture, the time has come to set aside childish things. The time has come to reaffirm our enduring spirit; to choose our better it together.” Dr Martin Luther King Jr.

Today The first steps of that dream came
Um.... I'm speachless. But then so is The Savior!

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I think we should measure Presidents based upon how they are laid to rest rather than their how they are welcomed to office. As for Reagan, it speaks volumes. As for Obama, the jury is still out.

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Fox TV is questioning whether or not Obama is legally president after his verbal fluff when reciting the oath of office. Fox News replayed the swearing-in moment over and over again when President Obama and Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. each bobbled the words to the constitutional oath. "They had a kind of garbled oath," said Fox's Chris Wallace. "It's just conceivable that this will end up going to the courts," he speculated.

A Fox News viewer made the following comments: "Well there are 20 or so other cases that have been or that are going to the Supreme Court asking if Obama is a natural born citizen. At this time we still do not know if Obama is eligible to be President. If not eligible - sworn in or not - he is not President. Cases are continuing to try and seek production of Obama's records that he has sealed or tried to destroy. We have yet to see a copy of his birth certificate to confirm that he was even born in Hawaii. So regardless of being sworn in we still do not know if we have a President."

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Originally posted by FMF
Fox TV is questioning whether or not Obama is legally president after his verbal fluff when reciting the oath of office. Fox News replayed the swearing-in moment over and over again when President Obama and Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. each bobbled the words to the constitutional oath. "They had a kind of garbled oath," said Fox's Chris Wallace. "It's just ...[text shortened]... n Hawaii. So regardless of being sworn in we still do not know if we have a President."
Ha ha ha. That second part is really funny.

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Originally posted by telerion
Ha ha ha. That second part is really funny.
"We still do not know if we have a President"

The American Spirit at its right ring best: tenacity and eternal optimism

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Originally posted by FMF
Fox TV is questioning whether or not Obama is legally president after his verbal fluff when reciting the oath of office. Fox News replayed the swearing-in moment over and over again when President Obama and Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. each bobbled the words to the constitutional oath. "They had a kind of garbled oath," said Fox's Chris Wallace. "It's just n Hawaii. So regardless of being sworn in we still do not know if we have a President."
If this is the case then FOX, as usual, doesn't understand the Constitution, which stipulates that the president-elect becomes president at noon. That is regardless of the oath. There is no stipulation that a garbled oath negates the taking of office. The US Supreme Court won't entertain a suit because of this; there is no constitutional grounds for suit.

I always thought that if there were any citizenship issues that McCain being born in Panama would be a bigger issue than Obama being born in Honolulu.

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Originally posted by Badwater
If this is the case then FOX, as usual, doesn't understand the Constitution, which stipulates that the president-elect becomes president at noon. That is regardless of the oath. There is no stipulation that a garbled oath negates the taking of office. The US Supreme Court won't entertain a suit because of this; there is no constitutional grounds for suit.
...[text shortened]... es that McCain being born in Panama would be a bigger issue than Obama being born in Honolulu.
It isn't a matter of whether or not he was born in Kenya. His mother was american, so no matter where he was born, he qualifies as american as long as he returns to America before he registers (at 18) for the draft. As I understand that issue. McCain has two american parents, and was born on american soil (by treaty) in Panama, so that is not an issue either.

The issue is elitism. If I apply for a passport (or renew it for the fourth time like I did last year) every ten years... I MUST provide my birth certificate. Obama and the Republican governor of Hawaii say that he doesn't need to provide his. Why is that? If an elite doesn't have to then why should I?

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Originally posted by lostapache
"On this day, we come to proclaim an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our politics. "
"We remain a young nation, but in the words of Scripture, the time has come to set aside childish things. The time has come to reaffirm our enduring spirit; to choose our better ...[text shortened]... it together.” Dr Martin Luther King Jr.

Today The first steps of that dream came
Quote from "Whats Going On" (Marvin Gaye):

"talk to me, so you can see, whats goin on"

"who are they to judge us, simply cos our hair is long"

check it out:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5nwzAlTAq1A

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Originally posted by FMF
Fox TV is questioning whether or not Obama is legally president after his verbal fluff when reciting the oath of office. [...] we still do not know if we have a President."
Chief Justice John G. Roberts was ushered into the Map Room of the White House on Wednesday night to re-administer the oath of office to President Barack Obama because the original oath on Tuesday had a word out of sequence.

Fox TV and the USA's "loyal opposition" has been thwarted, it seems.

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Originally posted by mbakunin
was anybody else struck by the contrast to the previous inauguration? i was quite amazed by the enthusiasm shown by the enormous crowds. can't remember having seen that last time around.
It cost 4 times as much as last time around. It makes sense that it would be a bigger bash.

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Originally posted by Badwater
If this is the case then FOX, as usual, doesn't understand the Constitution, which stipulates that the president-elect becomes president at noon. That is regardless of the oath. There is no stipulation that a garbled oath negates the taking of office. The US Supreme Court won't entertain a suit because of this; there is no constitutional grounds for suit.
...[text shortened]... es that McCain being born in Panama would be a bigger issue than Obama being born in Honolulu.
I heared a rumor that Obama's mom was kidnapped by Massai warriors while on holiday in Kenya and visting an animal preserve in 1960. Nine monts later, out popped Obama...also, his first words were "kill honkeys"...just what I heard...can anyone refute this nonsence?

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