Have you encountered this in the past decade or two?
You purchase various media and store information, be it personal or business. Six months later it has to be transferred or lost because that type of media is "out of date" or "no longer supported".
Thank god for dead trees and ink.
Electronic media is not durable. Here is a Science Fiction plot line. The entire world goes electronic and storage becomes so fragmented that finally a critical point is reached where interchange of information stops between media "types". Innovation then dies. Over time, each of the thousands of types of electronic media deteriorates and disappears.
Result? Dark Ages.
I guess the question I have is "Who will invent the ultimate electronic media storage and become a billionaire and what will that media be?"
Here are a few design parameters that it must meet.
1 - Must be inexpensive.
2 - Must be seamless and easy to use on "many" types of writers/readers.
3 - Must be able to morph to new tech as it comes along. In other words, it has to be "as fast as the speed of light", or it will just be replaced by faster and faster stuff.
4 - Must be physically tough and must last for at least a thousand years without self-destructing.
5 - Must be secure.
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Complicated question. Simple answer.
Inventor = Me.
Medium = A neutrino raytronic tri-phase plane merge, making all points in space merge into a single point, accessible from anywhere in the universe.
Speed: Instant, you can access any point in the universe
Inexpensive: Well, yeah, it only costs 1 zillion megabucks (about 30 cents in inflation adjusted 2007 U.S. dolars).
Ease-of-use: Sure, it is accessed with SCSI commands.
Physically tough: Every point of space in the universe is pretty tough.
Secure: billion-bit encryption key, enough said.
Originally posted by joneschrUmmmm.... lol
Complicated question. Simple answer.
Inventor = Me.
Medium = A neutrino raytronic tri-phase plane merge, making all points in space merge into a single point, accessible from anywhere in the universe.
Speed: Instant, you can access any point in the universe
Inexpensive: Well, yeah, it only costs 1 zillion megabucks (about 30 cents in infla ...[text shortened]... t of space in the universe is pretty tough.
Secure: billion-bit encryption key, enough said.
That one part... "all points in space merge into a single point," -- sounds amazingly like the "big bang". Are you sure it will work?
Originally posted by StarValleyWyBut actually the opposite is true.
Have you encountered this in the past decade or two?
You purchase various media and store information, be it personal or business. Six months later it has to be transferred or lost because that type of media is "out of date" or "no longer supported".
Thank god for dead trees and ink.
Electronic media is not durable. Here is a Science Fiction pl ...[text shortened]... st last for at least a thousand years without self-destructing.
5 - Must be secure.
The acceleration of technological advance is because of the exchange of information and improved storage. It has improved exponentially and will continue to do so
The library of Alexander etc was when ideas really got stored and spread leading to huge advances in civilisation.
the printing press saw another huge leap.
Mechanised presses saw another jump, and when the telegraphs came about the whole world changed.
The internet/information technology is a huge driver and it will only get better.
That sci fi was as stupid as your comment.
Originally posted by petrosianpupilThank you putrid for that wonderful contribution to a bit of harmless and FRIGGIN POINTLESS fun having. I'm sure that your obsession with me will wear off. Given time. In the meanwhile, I'll just have fun as more and more people come to understand megalomania and why when a parson has it, they obsess over being called out. And it gets worse over time. They lay awake at night thinking of things to say and ways of getting the better of their imaginary enemies.
But actually the opposite is true.
The acceleration of technological advance is because of the exchange of information and improved storage. It has improved exponentially and will continue to do so
The library of Alexander etc was when ideas really got stored and spread leading to huge advances in civilisation.
the printing press saw another ...[text shortened]... logy is a huge driver and it will only get better.
That sci fi was as stupid as your comment.
You are kind of fun to tease. And that is the point to the whole thing. Have a bit of fun and reveal the insane for what they are.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyThere was an article in Scientific American about that very subject a couple years ago. We have already gone through so many generations of information storage technologies and there are undoubtledly many more left to be invented. So in the Sci Am piece, he wondered if you took a cd with its 800 megs of storage or now the DVD with multi-gigabyte storage and the thought was to make a central info storage vault like the Mormons do with their records. So you dig out this vault, have hundreds of acres of underground vaults and commence to scan every book you can find and commit it to dvd's. Then you sit back and look at your work, the entire output of the knowledge of mankind in one place up to that time. So a couple thousand years goes by and the civilization that invented the technology has gone the way of the dodo and future archeologists come across these vaults. Now they have advanced way past that stuff to maybe having data stored in individual molecules or something and the see all these little discs and can't find a player. Now they are left with a huge problem, how to extract the data. They have no idea how the data is arranged, that is to say, what constitutes a block of data, there has to be some arrangement, say a 256 by 256 block is one sector, just making that up to illustrate the point. They would probably have something like microscopes and they would figure out the data was in those little phase shift pits and so forth but they would have to completely re-invent equipment to drag the data out of the disc's. They might not even have the concept of a physical device that has to have moving parts to access data and have to redo a whole sector of technology long lost. So the dude that originally thinks about the vault factors in that idea and has to shift his thinking about using 'modern' technology. If you remember that HG Wells story, the device that stored information was a disc that when someone just picked it up and sent it spinning on the top of the device, it started an audio visual stream telling about the dead civilization which only needed someone with enough curiosity and fingers able to pick up the disks and maybe even only accidently drop them on top and maybe only one disk starts spinning around and that is enough to get the idea across to the future generation who has lost the technique.
Thank you putrid for that wonderful contribution to a bit of harmless and [b] FRIGGIN POINTLESS fun having. I'm sure that your obsession with me will wear off. Given time. In the meanwhile, I'll just have fun as more and more people come to understand megalomania and why when a parson has it, they obsess over being called out. And it gets worse ove ...[text shortened]... at is the point to the whole thing. Have a bit of fun and reveal the insane for what they are.[/b]
I would think you would have to have something more like gold leaf or some other nonreactive metal and have a rosetta stone in a bunch of languages and a first grade reader that would teach some language that the metal plates would have just scratched on the surface. That would make the data totally non technological in terms of retrieval, just making the assumption the people of the future would have eyes and can see what is written down. Of course the originator would have no idea of what language would be like, say, 3000 years in the future but if they put the data in several root languages like sanskrit and english and chinese and japanese with enough cross dictionarys, a future linguist could build up a good layer of knowledge and decipher these dead languages, from his viewpoint.
I don't think ANY technology can be built that would be future proof. Anything you make, a hundred years later, assuming growth of science such as we see now, and now it's exponential, any device that requires some form of power may not even be in the right area of physics of the future to be recognized as a data storage media.
A thousand years from now, assuming the same technological growth as we have already seen, our stuff may be unrecognizable. Maybe by that time, all power comes from Infra-red radiation or some form of energy we don't even know about today, maybe quantum vibrations or something. They might not even have the ability to generate electricity any more because they went way beyond electron manipulation. The Sci-Am article concluded technology is not a good way to do it, old fashioned long lived non reactionary metal like gold or titanium and just markings would make the data long lived and interpretable by future archeologists.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyoops!!
Thank you putrid for that wonderful contribution to a bit of harmless and [b] FRIGGIN POINTLESS fun having. I'm sure that your obsession with me will wear off. Given time. In the meanwhile, I'll just have fun as more and more people come to understand megalomania and why when a parson has it, they obsess over being called out. And it gets worse ove ...[text shortened]... at is the point to the whole thing. Have a bit of fun and reveal the insane for what they are.[/b]
looks like your hormones are playing up.
Sorry to upset your "friggin pointless" fun.
I can see that you would need all the fun you can get.
Try and stay calm Stupidvalley.
Originally posted by petrosianpupilJust out of curiosity... have you mentioned me to your therapist yet?
oops!!
looks like your hormones are playing up.
Sorry to upset your "friggin pointless" fun.
I can see that you would need all the fun you can get.
Try and stay calm Stupidvalley.
What does she say about your obsession?
Originally posted by StarValleyWyI think that we're already reaching the point where the most important thing is not media storage capacity but the speed of filtering and accessing that information.
I guess the question I have is "Who will invent the ultimate electronic media storage and become a billionaire and what will that media be?"