12 May 07
Originally posted by lepomislol
Would do you guys think would be wrong with Iran having nuclear weapons?
I say we don't even have to speculate. It's a matter of time. It's like the gun issue. I don't worry about the nukes and missles. I worry about the guy whose life is dedicated to establishing allah's government on earth using all means at his disposal, knowing that he is covinced that everything he believes in hinges on gods return AT ARMAGEDDON. That is the goal.
The real question is.... Who is in charge? Those who want secular power? Or those who BELIEVE that the Islamic Republic of Iran is the rightful tool to bring about gods government on earth?
I say that by the time we silly humans decide who is in charge, New York will probably be a glow-in-the-dark getaway for rats.
12 May 07
Originally posted by lepomisYes I guess so. I am of the opinion that in the next 100 years, everyone who wants them WILL have them. It is just the nature of our species. What was once difficult becomes easy. Lord knows there is enough material floating about.
For the sake of argument, lets say that Holland wanted nuclear weapons... would you be OK with that?
I have to use the same logic as anyone who owns and knows the purpose of guns in self-defense. It is pointless to outlaw weapons because outlaws don't obey laws. It seems ever more the case as weapons get larger and more powerful.
12 May 07
Originally posted by StarValleyWyDo you think that it is worth trying to stop Iran from getting them then?
Yes I guess so. I am of the opinion that in the next 100 years, everyone who wants them WILL have them. It is just the nature of our species. What was once difficult becomes easy. Lord knows there is enough material floating about.
I have to use the same logic as anyone who owns and knows the purpose of guns in self-defense. It is pointless to outlaw ...[text shortened]... e outlaws don't obey laws. It seems ever more the case as weapons get larger and more powerful.
12 May 07
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Originally posted by lepomisNot really. If they use them, it will hasten armageddon.(edit) And I don't see that as a bad thing... in a smoldering-ember-leftover-persia kind of way. If they don't then what good do they do them? Is a threat any good if you can never use the threat? The UN proves that point. It works both ways.
Do you think that it is worth trying to stop Iran from getting them then?
If they don't use them then it is just a matter of time until their primitive notions of religion are swept away like the religion of "communism" was.
12 May 07
Originally posted by StarValleyWyWhich isn't logiacal at all, but a mis-concept by Americans.
Yes I guess so. I am of the opinion that in the next 100 years, everyone who wants them WILL have them. It is just the nature of our species. What was once difficult becomes easy. Lord knows there is enough material floating about.
I have to use the same logic as anyone who owns and knows the purpose of guns in self-defense. It is pointless to out ...[text shortened]... tlaws don't obey laws. It seems ever more the case as weapons get larger and more powerful.
12 May 07
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Originally posted by StarValleyWy"I have to use the same logic as anyone who owns and knows the purpose of guns in self-defense."
lol
One old 60 year old speaks for all of America? 🙄🙄
I had no idea. I'll try to be more careful.
There are sure more then one person who own and know the purpose of guns?
12 May 07
Originally posted by StarValleyWyThat's kinda strange logic - don't have laws because criminals will only break them?
I have to use the same logic as anyone who owns and knows the purpose of guns in self-defense. It is pointless to outlaw weapons because outlaws don't obey laws.
I think Libya is a good example where a regime supporting terrorism and seeking weapons of mass destruction can be persuaded to give up such ways, though there is a possibility this is because they saw the allies raping Afghanistan and Iraq and thought, 'hmm, no thanks, we'll play along sir!', rather than simply having an epiphany and wishing to atone for their previous illegal stance.
12 May 07
Originally posted by ElleEffSeeeYou think a show of force by the US would help in the Iran situation?
That's kinda strange logic - don't have laws because criminals will only break them?
I think Libya is a good example where a regime supporting terrorism and seeking weapons of mass destruction can be persuaded to give up such ways, though there is a possibility this is because they saw the allies raping Afghanistan and Iraq and thought, 'hmm, no thank ...[text shortened]... ther than simply having an epiphany and wishing to atone for their previous illegal stance.
12 May 07
Originally posted by lepomisOther than it tips the balance of power in the region by creating a second superpower (by mid east standards) and then we have additional problem of allowing a terror backing nation to have nukes which leads to how do we stop them from building a suitcase nuke? The answer is that we can't. Not if they have the ability to process their own nuclear material.
Would do you guys think would be wrong with Iran having nuclear weapons?
Given that the current Iranian government (mullahs) has used their proxies (Hezbullah) in the recent past (Lebanon, Khobar Towers) and argueably still continue (Iraq) to attack America and its allies (Israel, Saudi Arabia) the suitcase nuke issue is potentially a life or death issue. The only way to be sure they don't develope one is to stop the nuke program altogether.
12 May 07
Originally posted by MerkSo who decides what countries can have nuclear weapons? What if they decided that the US should not have them?
Other than it tips the balance of power in the region by creating a second superpower (by mid east standards) and then we have additional problem of allowing a terror backing nation to have nukes which leads to how do we stop them from building a suitcase nuke? The answer is that we can't. Not if they have the ability to process their own nuclear material.
...[text shortened]... ssue. The only way to be sure they don't develope one is to stop the nuke program altogether.
12 May 07
Originally posted by SushillYou must be one of those friggin genius I read about. Where did you get to be so smart? That thar is about the most clever thing I have ever heard.
[b]"I have to use the same logic as anyone who owns and knows the purpose of guns in self-defense."
There are sure more then one person who own and know the purpose of guns?[/b]