Go back
is dubya going to be nixon 2?

is dubya going to be nixon 2?

Debates

Vote Up
Vote Down

given the recent events that a member of the bush administration has been forced to resign after being charged with perjury, i was wondering if our american friends think that this issue is going to escalate as the watergate investigation did, and will bush go the same way as nixon did.

i find the comparison interesting as the guy who has been charged is a member of cheney's staff. folk will remember that spiro agnew, nixons first vp, had to resign, for an offence unrelated to watergate, before nixon had to fall on his sword.

would it suit the democrats if bush remains as president with this cloud hanging over him?

Vote Up
Vote Down

u wish! 🙂

Vote Up
Vote Down

the dems would like to make hay with it, but look how little they really have, to make hay with ...

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by chris stephens
given the recent events that a member of the bush administration has been forced to resign after being charged with perjury, i was wondering if our american friends think that this issue is going to escalate as the watergate investigation did, and will bush go the same way as nixon did.

i find the comparison interesting as the guy who has been char ...[text shortened]... d.

would it suit the democrats if bush remains as president with this cloud hanging over him?
I think this case has more paralells with the Hutton report than Nixon.

No one has been found guilty yet. I doubt if anyone will be found guilty either.

This is not to say certain people have not lied or acted improperly- they may have done.

But beating an incumbent government in this type of trial is not easy.

Vote Up
Vote Down

yahoo says libby's defense is going to be that he has no memory of it ...

wasn't that a favored clintonista argument? ...

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by zeeblebot
yahoo says libby's defense is going to be that he has no memory of it ...

wasn't that a favored clintonista argument? ...
No, I think that was Reagan and his Alzhe...hang on, what was I saying?

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by chris stephens
given the recent events that a member of the bush administration has been forced to resign after being charged with perjury, i was wondering if our american friends think that this issue is going to escalate as the watergate investigation did, and will bush go the same way as nixon did.
No. There was good reason to go after Nixon because he was a controlling SOB. When members of his administration proved to be liers and thieves, he was culpable.

Bush isn't smart enough to be expected to control the rogues in his administration: ignorance is bliss.

Vote Up
Vote Down

You guys desperately need a multi party system.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by ivanhoe
You guys desperately need a multi party system.
We do. We have two parties.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by chris stephens
given the recent events that a member of the bush administration has been forced to resign after being charged with perjury, i was wondering if our american friends think that this issue is going to escalate as the watergate investigation did, and will bush go the same way as nixon did.

i find the comparison interesting as the guy who has been char ...[text shortened]... d.

would it suit the democrats if bush remains as president with this cloud hanging over him?
What I think you will see happen is Scooter Libby goes down, keeps his mouth shut, more exciting news eventually fills this latest "crisis", and after a couple of years of tough fed prison living he slips back into society considerably richer than when he left....but keep hoping and praying blue people, they cant take away your dreams.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by ivanhoe
You guys desperately need a multi party system.
For once I agree with ivanhoe completely.

(I must be wrong) 😛

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by Bobla45
What I think you will see happen is Scooter Libby goes down, keeps his mouth shut, more exciting news eventually fills this latest "crisis", and after a couple of years of tough fed prison living he slips back into society considerably richer than when he left....but keep hoping and praying blue people, they cant take away your dreams.
Can the president pardon him or does he have to wait for the next one?

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by telerion
Can the president pardon him or does he have to wait for the next one?
🙂 I'm not sure, but I am sure you are seeing the big picture here.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by telerion
Can the president pardon him or does he have to wait for the next one?
Sure the President can pardon him; Reagan pardoned a whole lot of his lying cronies in Iran-ContraGate. I doubt whether Bush would though, at least not until after the 2006 elections.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by zeeblebot
yahoo says libby's defense is going to be that he has no memory of it ...

wasn't that a favored clintonista argument? ...
That'll be a tough sell after he made specific denials of knowledge under oath. I don't think the "Steve Martin Defense" is going to work for him.

Actually, the underlying incident is more serious than Watergate. Watergate was directed to getting the President re-elected; this scandal involves public officials conspiring to give false info to make the country support war. Plame was outed in retailation for her husband daring to say that a statement of the President used to support the conclusion that war was necessary was false.