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Originally posted by EmLaskerIn prisons or other artificial single-sex populations, it is learned.
or learned?
for example, gay guys are generally caregiving, neat and good-looking. what does this tell us?
In society, it is probably an adverse mutation because it tends to interfere with reproductive success.
edit: I never thought about the fact that being neat and good-looking would help them attract a female mate -- until that mate found out. Maybe that sort of pressure is what keeps the mutation from dying out -- they manage to "bait and switch" with enough females to keep going.
Originally posted by EmLaskerGood looking??? Gays are no less self-serving than the rest of society; after all, they are just as human as the rest of us. They may be neater than a typical male slob, but that's because the feminine side of fastidiousness takes over.
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for example, gay guys are generally caregiving, neat and good-looking. what does this tell us?
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Originally posted by EmLaskerHomosexuality is an abomination, therefore it is not natural. How do I know? The Bible tells me so. I know this isn't the spiritual forums, but you asked, and my opinion is referenced in the 'Good Book'. Now, I don't dislike gays, so don't assume that I'm a homophobe. I would give my last dollar to a homeless-homo. The decent thing to do is hate the sin but love the sinner. Put this in your thesis and watch your professor blow a gasket...LOL
or learned?
for example, gay guys are generally caregiving, neat and good-looking. what does this tell us?
Originally posted by dystoniacThe Bible also says they should be killed. Would you do that because the Bible says to?
Homosexuality is an abomination, therefore it is not natural. How do I know? The Bible tells me so. I know this isn't the spiritual forums, but you asked, and my opinion is referenced in the 'Good Book'. Now, I don't dislike gays, so don't assume that I'm a homophobe. I would give my last dollar to a homeless-homo. The decent thing to do is hate the ...[text shortened]... but love the sinner. Put this in your thesis and watch your professor blow a gasket...LOL
Originally posted by kirksey957Killed by whom? Where in the Bible does it say to kill homosexuals? The Qu'ran might incite their followers to kill homos, but Jesus never stated that gays should be killed. If the Old testament mentions the smiting of queers, then God alone has the authority to do so. Jesus came and made the Old Testament irrelavent. God smited them in Sodom and Gamorrah because it is an abomination and is completely unacceptable to God. Jesus teaches to love all people, including one's enemies, so I love atheists and gays.
The Bible also says they should be killed. Would you do that because the Bible says to?
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Originally posted by dystoniacThen on what basis are you saying that homosexuality is an abomination and is completely unacceptable to "God"?
Jesus came and made the Old Testament irrelavent.
Homesexuals are unacceptable to "God". And yet Jesus teaches you to love them. I thought Christians were monotheists.
Originally posted by FMFJesus said on more than one occasion words to the effect of if any man has seen him he has seen the Father as well as saying that he and his Father were one. If anyone can accept the truth of th e bible or the notion of a creator God and then balk at the seeming incongruity of a trinity operating within the monotheistic Godhead, then they are simply being difficult.
Then on what basis are you saying that homosexuality is an abomination and is completely unacceptable to "God"?
Homesexuals are unacceptable to "God". And yet Jesus teaches you to love them. I thought Christians were monotheists.
Btw Jesus also said that he came not to abolish the law and the prophets, but that he came to fulfill them and he cautioned any who would argue differently. Jesus teaches us to love God and each other equally. Given that all have sinned and that Jesus had a problem with people who outwardly did the "right thing" but who had lust filled or hate filled hearts suggests that it was the sin that was the problem not the person. Now if everyone has sinned and fallen short of God's glory and if all sin is abhorrent to God, does this also suggest a conflicted Deity? No anything but. Read John 3:16 and try not to get caught up in Father-Son apparent incongruity.
Originally posted by kmax87Sorry. You're addressing the wrong person here. I only responded to dystoniac because I believe him/her to be a purveyor of a particularly nasty brand hatespeech who is completely unable to substantiate any of the grotesque superstition-fuelled assertions he/she makes. I am not interested in theological discussions, except occasionally here in Indonesia where (by way of a bit of harmless intellectual amusement) I find my partially internalized (but now safely quarantined) Catholic "trinity operating within the monotheistic Godhead" thing gets ripped to shreds by educated Muslims. Mind you, I can drink all of them under the table in the process.
Jesus said on more than one occasion words to the effect of if any man has seen him he has seen the Father as well as saying that he and his Father were one. If anyone can accept the truth of th e bible or the notion of a creator God and then balk at the seeming incongruity of a trinity operating within the monotheistic Godhead, then they are simply being dif ...[text shortened]... anything but. Read John 3:16 and try not to get caught up in Father-Son apparent incongruity.
Originally posted by FMFnaughty muslims! But if it gets friends who stop over to stay the night....
Sorry. You're addressing the wrong person here. I only responded to dystoniac because I believe him/her to be a purveyor of a particularly nasty brand hatespeech who is completely unable to substantiate any of the grotesque superstition-fuelled assertions he/she makes. I am not interested in theological discussions, except occasionally here in Indonesia where (b ...[text shortened]... shreds by educated Muslims. Mind you, I can drink all of them under the table in the process.