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  1. 07 Jun '11 22:33
    Any Indians here want to debate with palynka that it's not?
  2. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    07 Jun '11 22:57
    Originally posted by trev33
    Any Indians here want to debate with palynka that it's not?
    Perhaps Indians on an internet chess site wouldn't be the most representative group to give such an analysis. It certainly seems India has many people who are "destitute":

    Of its nearly 1 billion inhabitants, an estimated 350-400 million are below the poverty line, 75 per cent of them in the rural areas.

    More than 40 per cent of the population is illiterate, with women, tribal and scheduled castes particularly affected.

    http://www.anonlineindia.com/facts/poverty.htm
  3. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    07 Jun '11 23:34
    Oh dear, another idiot whose ego I shattered.
  4. 07 Jun '11 23:34
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Perhaps Indians on an internet chess site wouldn't be the most representative group to give such an analysis. It certainly seems India has many people who are "destitute":

    Of its nearly 1 billion inhabitants, an estimated 350-400 million are below the poverty line, 75 per cent of them in the rural areas.

    More than 40 per cent of the p ...[text shortened]... and scheduled castes particularly affected.

    http://www.anonlineindia.com/facts/poverty.htm
    The continuing strength of the Naxalite-Maoist insurgency, which controls 92,000 square kilometres of Indian territory and is active is more than 200 districts constituting 40% of India's total surface area, might also be taken of evidence that there's a lot of destitution in India.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite-Maoist_insurgency
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_corridor
  5. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    07 Jun '11 23:40
    Originally posted by Teinosuke
    The continuing strength of the Naxalite-Maoist insurgency, which controls 92,000 square kilometres of Indian territory and is active is more than 200 districts constituting 40% of India's total surface area, might also be taken of evidence that there's a lot of destitution in India.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite-Maoist_insurgency
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_corridor
    The world need more Maoist insurgencies. Islamic Fundamentalists are sooooooooooooooooooo played out and medieval.
  6. Standard member Soothfast
    0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,
    08 Jun '11 00:25 / 1 edit
    India is desperately overpopulated. That's the main problem. A general social consciousness that having more than 2 children is excessively detrimental to the environment as well as the common weal needs to be fostered. The advancement of women's rights and the elimination of the caste system would also help.
  7. 08 Jun '11 01:59
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Oh dear, another idiot whose ego I shattered.
    don't flatter yourself.
  8. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    08 Jun '11 05:30
    I sneezed dead people out of my nose in Varanasi.
    If that ain't destitution, I don't know what is.
  9. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    08 Jun '11 09:04
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    I sneezed dead people out of my nose in Varanasi.
    If that ain't destitution, I don't know what is.
    It's called "too much coke snorting".
  10. 08 Jun '11 10:08
    Originally posted by Soothfast
    India is desperately overpopulated. That's the main problem. A general social consciousness that having more than 2 children is excessively detrimental to the environment as well as the common weal needs to be fostered. The advancement of women's rights and the elimination of the caste system would also help.
    That kind of social consciousness might be pretty hard to foster, especially when the areas with the highest birthrate are the tribal and remote ones least directly under the sway of the Indian government. A fall in the fertility rate tends to come as a consequence of growing prosperity - once parents can reasonably expect their children to live to adulthood, they don't feel the need to have so many.

    In any case, India's total fertility rate in 2010 was 2.68, close to the world average and fairly low for a developing country. India's population density is high at 368 people per square kilometre, but the figure for prosperous Japan is not very much lower, and South Korea and the Netherlands, also prosperous, have higher density. India also benefits from more agricultural land than any other country apart from the United States.

    Basically, I think that overpopulation is a secondary problem compared to inequality.
  11. 08 Jun '11 10:21
    Originally posted by Teinosuke
    That kind of social consciousness might be pretty hard to foster, especially when the areas with the highest birthrate are the tribal and remote ones least directly under the sway of the Indian government. A fall in the fertility rate tends to come as a consequence of growing prosperity - once parents can reasonably expect their children to live to adultho ...[text shortened]... tes.

    Basically, I think that overpopulation is a secondary problem compared to inequality.
    Well said.
  12. 08 Jun '11 15:02 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Teinosuke
    A fall in the fertility rate tends to come as a consequence of growing prosperity - once parents can reasonably expect their children to live to adulthood, they don't feel the need to have so many.

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    Since India's population has tripled since 1950, I'd say they don't have to worry too much about infant mortality or living to adulthood.

    A population of one billion should be adequate, especially since over 800 million of them are living on less than 2 dollars per day.

    Who here is claiming India isn't destitute?

    Sweden in 1950 had a population of 7 million, in 2010 just under 9 million.

    They had things figured out until they started doing this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN32eCzIv1U

    Somalia's population in 1950 = 2 million, in 2010 10 million.

    Good luck Sweden.
  13. 08 Jun '11 15:20
    Originally posted by Zapp Brannigan
    Since India's population has tripled since 1950, I'd say they don't have to worry too much about infant mortality or living to adulthood.

    A population of one billion should be adequate, especially since over 800 million of them are living on less than 2 dollars per day.

    Who here is claiming India isn't destitute?

    Sweden in 1950 had a populat ...[text shortened]... zIv1U

    Somalia's population in 1950 = 2 million, in 2010 10 million.

    Good luck Sweden.
    Welcome back!