Originally posted by kirksey957Yes it is.
to feel differently about a female teacher having sex with her teenage male students than if it were a male teacher having sex with his female students. I was thinking about this as I heard a story on the news about another female teacher arrested for this in California.
And I'd also like to know why I never had any hot teachers in my school that would have sex with me?
Never mind, don't answer that.
Originally posted by kirksey957Hey Kirk,
to feel differently about a female teacher having sex with her teenage male students than if it were a male teacher having sex with his female students. I was thinking about this as I heard a story on the news about another female teacher arrested for this in California.
We talked about this a long time back.
I said then and I say now that it isn't the same thing. A male can't get "knocked-up" and a female can. The order of magnitude of the crime is different.
For an "old, experienced" chimp to "try to" get a child pregnant is totally reprehensible. For a horney old broad to try and "get a tingle" off of young studs is sad and at worst... humorous.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyYour memory is better than mine. The female teachers in these cases always seem to be very attractive. I think we will observe the trend here that the men on the site will either be jealous or minimize it as a problem.
Hey Kirk,
We talked about this a long time back.
I said then and I say now that it isn't the same thing. A male can't get "knocked-up" and a female can. The order of magnitude of the crime is different.
For an "old, experienced" chimp to "try to" get a child pregnant is totally reprehensible. For a horney old broad to try and "get a tingle" off of young studs is sad and at worst... humorous.
Yes it is.
1. Woman sleeping with alot of men = Tramp etc...
2. Man sleeping with alot of women = stud etc...
Why do people feel this way? I think it is because people think that all women are submissive and men dominant when it comes to sex.
Therefore the thinking based on 1 & 2 above is:
1. She shouldn't let men take advantage of her.
2. He sure has conquered alot of women.
When you look at it this way a man having sex with a student is thought of as conquering somone who doesn't know any better. A woman on the other hand obviously couldn't conquer the student, she just let things go too far....
Food for thought...
Whenever a person in a position of authority engages in sexual activity with a person under their authority it is an abuse of power. In the case of an adult who is given wide access to children by their parents and the society at large as in the case of a teacher, coach, scout leader or preist it is a profound breach of trust. Further, child sexual assualt is rarely a kind of throw a person down rape but rather a slow, calculated process by which the child victim is made a participant in the mind of the child and of the adult. The child victim perceives that the "abuse" is acceptable conduct on the part of the molestor.
Male victims of child sexual predators report the same traumatic effects as female victims. Among those symptoms are: depression, suddent sleeping and eating disturbances, anxiety, fear of particular places and particular persons which can be a wide category of person; all women, all tall men, all teachers, etc and isolation. Longer term effects of sexual child abuse include STD's, pregnancy (Imagine being a 13-year old boy with a pregnant by you adult molestor), promiscuity, self-destructive behavior, alcohol and drug dependecy and revictimization by other molestors or becoming perpetrators of abuse themselves.
One additional burden is carried by the teenaged child victim....the societal myth that it is a good thing for a young boy to receive "advanced" sexual training. The boy is expected to think this is cool, many parents do not take the abuse seriously if they find out about it, the child's friends do not take the assualt seriously: back slaps and ribal jokes all around and a child in pain is left further isolated and without support....the victim is in effect told that he was lucky and should be happy to have been victimized.
Kirksey, It is not hypocritical of you but rather a hypocrisy of the culture which is reflected in your ideas. Witness the response in this thread.
Originally posted by AynatVery analytical and silly.
Whenever a person in a position of authority engages in sexual activity with a person under their authority it is an abuse of power. In the case of an adult who is given wide access to children by their parents and the society at large as in ...[text shortened]... s reflected in your ideas. Witness the response in this thread.
Very "PC".
but women have "raped" boys since the big bad "chimp chief" said they were property.
That is nature. Get pregnant by the strongest and do it as many times as possible.
A woman judges "strength" intuitively,( no conscious thought is EVER involved).
Most school teachers are surrounded by "wimps" who couldn't "do" so they "teach".
What should they do when "biology" calls and they are teaching a 14 year old who is "twice the man" of their professor husband?
Well. they should get pregnant by that 14 year old. That is "nature". Love it or hate it.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyRespectfully,
Very analytical and silly.
Very "PC".
but women have "raped" boys since the big bad "chimp chief" said they were property.
That is nature. Get pregnant by the strongest and do it as many times as possible.
A woman judges "strength" intuitively,( no conscious thought is EVER involved).
Most school teachers are surrounded by "wimps ...[text shortened]... ?
Well. they should get pregnant by that 14 year old. That is "nature". Love it or hate it.
This is not silly....nor is it "PC"
This is real, this is my field. I see these children as both children and adults....
The anguish in which they live should not be lightly dismissed or trivialized.
Originally posted by AynatOk.
Respectfully,
This is not silly....nor is it "PC"
This is real, this is my field. I see these children as both children and adults....
The anguish in which they live should not be lightly dismissed or trivialized.
Get a new life. Defend the "girls" who can become pregnant.
Forget about every twelve year old males "wet dream".
Get a life. Pregnancy is the key word. When was the last time a male client became "pregnant"?
<edit> I can only tell you what is true for me. I would have killed to be screwed by any lady when I was 13. But that's just me. It ain't a crime if it fullfills all of a 12 year olds dreams. If she screws a queer... that's her problem. Ain't it?
Originally posted by kirksey957In my view no difference, only society does take different views, in the same as if a male walks nude thro towns hes arrested , women do the same and arrested but make money in tablod newspapers, magazines, and tv appearances.
to feel differently about a female teacher having sex with her teenage male students than if it were a male teacher having sex with his female students. I was thinking about this as I heard a story on the news about another female teacher arrested for this in California.
The whole issue is a rather sad one. I think that most of the teachers involved are too wrapped up with their students: the students have become her/his life. That is particularly true where you have teachers who do extracirricular activities and spend long hours with their students. Obviously, they haven't got a stable homelife.
The students are also missing something at home. This teacher becomes a surrogate mother opr father, as well as a sexual partner.
SVW's claim about pregnancy is ludicrous, but then so is everything he says.
Stereotypes is all. Growing up my peer group being male would endorse this kind of behavior. What I mean to say is that as a boy in puberty I would fantasize about just about any older woman that I found attractive, and as I have grown older it has not changed much. I guess when I read these stories (as bad as it sounds) it does not disturb me all that much, even though it should. If it is a male taking advantage of a female who is under their authority I have major problems with it. Why, I don't know. I guess it should be the same either way. Even now when guys I know in my age group hear about these stories and talk about them, it is not the way of being upset as they would be if it was an adult man and a very young girl.
Look around...the video "hot for teacher" speaks volumes of what drifts past in the back waters of society.
RTh
Ringtailhunter and Elvendreamgirl both make good points. Any teacher, male or female, having sex with a student, even in college, seems to me to be a breach of professional ethics. I suppose one can ignore the college situation where both are adults but it still does not seem like a good idea to me. Certainly it cannot be ignored in high school, middle school or grade school. A teacher having sex with a minor student is no different than a doctor having sex with a minor patient, a lawyer with a minor client, or a minister/priest with a minor parishioner. It is illegal, a breach of trust and a breach of professionsl ethics. I do not think it makes a difference if the teacher is male or female. Nor does it make a difference if both parties are willing participants. There's something inherently dysfunctional about such situations.
I wonder if some of the tolerance shown for female molesters of children is due to the societal belief that woman do not engage in sex for sex alone but due to a strong emotional bond?
It intrigues me that male posters have cited a fantasy of being initiated by an older woman into sex . Because a common female fantasy is that of being initiated by an older more experienced man.