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is it worth banning cheaters?

is it worth banning cheaters?

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i mean, it's wrong, we all know that, but think about it, anyone who cheats is gonna get bored pretty soon; cheaters take up way too much time for rhp admins who have to go through all their games to find a computer assisted pattern so that they can ban them; cheaters will only get banned then sign up again; even though they may have cheated against you, it can't do your game (only your points) any harm, it can only help you become a better player, and finally, i cant think of anything more boring than merely copying a engine with its moves, there has to be a time when cheaters get so bored with this idea they simply give up; or they get to 2500+ and start to question what was the point of it all...

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i actually have a chess program that thinks 30 moves ahead so i just think 31 moves ahead and i can beat it so i don't really get the point either

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Originally posted by eatmybishop
i mean, it's wrong, we all know that, but think about it, anyone who cheats is gonna get bored pretty soon; cheaters take up way too much time for rhp admins who have to go through all their games to find a computer assisted pattern so that they can ban them; cheaters will only get banned then sign up again; even though they may have cheated against you, ...[text shortened]... hey simply give up; or they get to 2500+ and start to question what was the point of it all...
They don't get bored pretty quickly but go on and on like that. Yes, I think cheaters should be banned, whether it's cheaters on a chess web site or morons using steroids in sports. I haven't heard anyone proclaim that playing against a cheater made them a better player. Can you show me someone whose ratings went up because they learned how to play better by playing against cheaters?

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Originally posted by eatmybishop
i mean, it's wrong, we all know that, but think about it, anyone who cheats is gonna get bored pretty soon; cheaters take up way too much time for rhp admins who have to go through all their games to find a computer assisted pattern so that they can ban them; cheaters will only get banned then sign up again; even though they may have cheated against you, ...[text shortened]... hey simply give up; or they get to 2500+ and start to question what was the point of it all...
We are here to play against humans. If we wanted to play against a computer we would play against a computer.
Cheaters are more likely to be discouraged if they have to keep resigning up and get their ratings up to the top.
Also, the score board is a little more realistic if there are less cheaters on it.
I also think that the risk of being banned might discourage some would-be cheaters.

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Originally posted by pawnhandler
They don't get bored pretty quickly but go on and on like that. Yes, I think cheaters should be banned, whether it's cheaters on a chess web site or morons using steroids in sports. I haven't heard anyone proclaim that playing against a cheater made them a better player. Can you show me someone whose ratings went up because they learned how to play better by playing against cheaters?
no, i did say if wouldn't do your rating any good, what i meant was by constantly playing a great player (chess program), eventually your game will improve to match his level...

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Originally posted by eatmybishop
no, i did say if wouldn't do your rating any good, what i meant was by constantly playing a great player (chess program), eventually your game will improve to match his level...
As I said, if my aim was to improve my game by playing a computer then I would play a computer. I have a chess computer at home that can play at very high ratings. However playing against a good player is not the only way to improve your chess and possibly not a very good way if used as the only method.
Currently I play for the fun of it so I want to win some times against players who make it hard for me but not too hard. I also find human players much more interesting than a computer.

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Originally posted by eatmybishop
i mean, it's wrong, we all know that, but think about it, anyone who cheats is gonna get bored pretty soon; cheaters take up way too much time for rhp admins who have to go through all their games to find a computer assisted pattern so that they can ban them; cheaters will only get banned then sign up again; even though they may have cheated against you, ...[text shortened]... hey simply give up; or they get to 2500+ and start to question what was the point of it all...
Policing often works simply by throwing would-be perpetrators into doubt. Most people try to act morally, but everyone occasionally gets tempted. However, any threat of getting caught makes it much easier for 99% of us to act 100% morally (I made those numbers up).

Besides, what else have RHP admins got to do?