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  1. 26 Feb '10 03:44
    FMF has once again inspired Whodey. Instead of asking whether the actual man was good or evil, whatever that means, we will ask the question how has Marxism influenced us today and in days past? Has the political influence been good or has it set mankind back or a combination thereof?
  2. 26 Feb '10 03:46
    I spit on Marxism!!!
  3. 26 Feb '10 03:49
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    I spit on Marxism!!!
    Why?
  4. 26 Feb '10 03:52
    What really interests me is how the term "Marxist" is so toxic, at least in the US political verbage. However, we have politicians implementing Marxist like policies as they deny being Marxists. Why not just come out and defend what they believe instead of hiding behind something they are not?
  5. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    26 Feb '10 04:01
    Originally posted by whodey
    we have politicians implementing Marxist like policies as they deny being Marxists.
    I think your ignorance of what marxism is should be a thread all of its own.
  6. 26 Feb '10 05:04
    Originally posted by FMF
    I think your ignorance of what marxism is should be a thread all of its own.
    Please explain your view of Marxism?
  7. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    26 Feb '10 05:14
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    Please explain your view of Marxism?
    No. Why would I want to engage with people using their own secret language? Whodey is the one who is saying that U.S. "politicians [are] implementing Marxist like policies as they deny being Marxists" so the onus is on him, not me, to explain that peculiar assertion. You let it pass without asking him for his definition, so presumably you are inclined to agree with him. If so this means that you and him have your own secret language in which the word "marxism" bears no credible relation to political science in the real world (in which my understanding of "marxism" is rooted... if you haven't read Marx or read about Marxism and if you don't know what that definition is then I hardly think you and I have much chance of discussing politics in any meaningful way.
  8. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    26 Feb '10 06:22 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Why?
    Because people tend to fear what they ignore.

    [insert here some scene with chimps playing the bongo]
  9. Standard member DrKF
    incipit parodia
    26 Feb '10 07:33
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    I spit on Marxism!!!
    Which do you like least, the Theses on Feuerbach or the Grundrisse?
  10. Standard member DrKF
    incipit parodia
    26 Feb '10 07:39
    Originally posted by whodey
    What really interests me is how the term "Marxist" is so toxic, at least in the US political verbage. However, we have politicians implementing Marxist like policies as they deny being Marxists. Why not just come out and defend what they believe instead of hiding behind something they are not?
    FMF got in here first, but I'd just like to add some mocking laughter.

    Kudos for hollowing out a word and leaving it with virtually no meaningful content, though.
  11. 26 Feb '10 08:28
    Well, I suppose Marxism gave rise to social democracy as well, which, whether you like it or not, has also significantly influenced U.S. politics. I don't know to what degree Marxism was necessary for the advent of social democracy, however.
  12. Subscriber Wajoma
    Die Cheeseburger
    26 Feb '10 08:29
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Because he's ignorant and, henceforth, makes graphical representations of his fears --which usually coincide with what he ignores.
  13. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    26 Feb '10 08:33 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Wajoma


    *tumbleweeds*

    Brilliant! The most intelligent thing you've ever posted!

    Rec'd!!
  14. Subscriber Wajoma
    Die Cheeseburger
    26 Feb '10 08:40
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Brilliant! The most intelligent thing you've ever posted!

    Rec'd!!
    Yep I thought it was ok, was going to compliment you on it, but then your head just swelled out too far.
  15. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    26 Feb '10 10:46
    Originally posted by whodey
    FMF has once again inspired Whodey. Instead of asking whether the actual man was good or evil, whatever that means, we will ask the question how has Marxism influenced us today and in days past? Has the political influence been good or has it set mankind back or a combination thereof?
    Can you contradict dialectic materialism?
    Anyhoo, it's better to have a financial system based on philosophy than a philosophy based upon a financial system.

    Ayn Rand can suck my nuts.