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  1. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    25 Sep '13 15:13
    If the Conservative agenda is supposed to be the best path, then why are red states the poorest, and worst educated??

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2012/10/15/americas-best-and-worst-educated-states/

    http://money.msn.com/investing/americas-richest-and-poorest-states:
  2. 25 Sep '13 15:19
    Originally posted by bill718
    If the Conservative agenda is supposed to be the best path, then why are red states the poorest, and worst educated??

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2012/10/15/americas-best-and-worst-educated-states/

    http://money.msn.com/investing/americas-richest-and-poorest-states:
    Perhaps it is because in the liberal states you find the widest gaps between rich and poor.

    The super rich make areas rich while the common man isn't going to be very rich.

    Where do you find the ghettos in the US? In the large cities generally found in liberal states.
  3. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    25 Sep '13 15:43 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Perhaps it is because in the liberal states you find the widest gaps between rich and poor.

    The super rich make areas rich while the common man isn't going to be very rich.

    Where do you find the ghettos in the US? In the large cities generally found in liberal states.
    That's not exactly true. This is regarding average income and net worth per citizen, not gaps between rich and poor. The average income per citizen is lower in red states. (....and I guess we're not supposed to talk about education and literacy huh?)
  4. 25 Sep '13 16:02
    Originally posted by bill718
    That's not exactly true. This is regarding average income and net worth per citizen, not gaps between rich and poor. The average income per citizen is lower in red states. (....and I guess we're not supposed to talk about education and literacy huh?)
    It's not exactly true that the large cities with ghettos are generally in liberal states?
  5. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    25 Sep '13 16:27
    Originally posted by bill718
    If the Conservative agenda is supposed to be the best path, then why are red states the poorest, and worst educated??

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2012/10/15/americas-best-and-worst-educated-states/

    http://money.msn.com/investing/americas-richest-and-poorest-states:
    While the premise of your question is silly, of course the answer is that the largest and most powerful centers of commerce are (by and large) in "blue" states.
  6. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    25 Sep '13 20:30 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by sh76
    While the premise of your question is silly, of course the answer is that the largest and most powerful centers of commerce are (by and large) in "blue" states.
    The "premise" of my question may indeed be silly, but the facts are not. These red states with their low tax rates, which leaves little money for education, and supply side economic mentality, which seems to reward only the rich, does not seem to be delivering the kind of economic prosperity that was promised, in other words...it does not trickle down! Since this seems to have been the case for decades in these states, I continue to ask, is this conservative agenda really the best economic and educational model for our country? I would have to say no.
  7. 25 Sep '13 20:55
    Originally posted by bill718
    The "premise" of my question may indeed be silly, but the facts are not. These red states with their low tax rates, which leaves little money for education, and supply side economic mentality, which seems to reward only the rich, does not seem to be delivering the kind of economic prosperity that was promised, in other words...it does not trickle down! Since ...[text shortened]... e agenda really the best economic and educational model for our country? I would have to say no.
    How would you explain the success of a historically "blue" area like Detroit? Do you believe its union friendly policies and Democratic leadership s a model to be adopted by all of the US?
  8. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    25 Sep '13 21:08 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by quackquack
    How would you explain the success of a historically "blue" area like Detroit? Do you believe its union friendly policies and Democratic leadership s a model to be adopted by all of the US?
    Who owns the land in Detroit?

    http://michiganradio.org/post/gilbert-owns-downtown-detroit-who-owns-most-private-land-whole-city
    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20110203/METRO01/102030395

    Those people are failing their community. For them, Detroit is a way to extract money from the masses. These people don't care about the inhabitants of the city.

    Notice the word "private" in the link title. People who want to protect private property rights are people who profit from owning immense amounts of land. "Private property" is a phrase that should always put us on guard.
  9. 26 Sep '13 00:08
    Detroit? Did I mention ghetto?
  10. 26 Sep '13 02:44
    Chicago is doing well. Who is the mayor again ?
  11. 28 Sep '13 02:14
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    Chicago is doing well. Who is the mayor again ?
    I think it is the same one who came from Detriot.
  12. Standard member sasquatch672
    Don't Like It Leave
    01 Oct '13 20:12
    Originally posted by bill718
    The "premise" of my question may indeed be silly, but the facts are not. These red states with their low tax rates, which leaves little money for education, and supply side economic mentality, which seems to reward only the rich, does not seem to be delivering the kind of economic prosperity that was promised, in other words...it does not trickle down! Since ...[text shortened]... e agenda really the best economic and educational model for our country? I would have to say no.
    Well, since YOU said so...it must be true. I'm sure that you read that article with absolutely no preconceived notions.
  13. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    02 Oct '13 17:36
    Originally posted by quackquack
    How would you explain the success of a historically "blue" area like Detroit? Do you believe its union friendly policies and Democratic leadership s a model to be adopted by all of the US?
    http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/sourceoff-blog/big-three-automakers-outsourcing-to-mexico-39465