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Originally posted by RedmikeYeah, well, Mikey, I put in the same blender the 1st and the 3rd post,
There's absolutely nothing wrong with the 1st post.
The 3rd post, on the other hand.
And, just for the record, I do not think israel has the right to exist. I just take a pragmatic approach to resolving the situation. Just because it doesn't have a right to exist doesn't mean it should be destroyed.
when the reality is that only the 3rd one is scary.
To the first one I only yawned, but is perfectly debatable within the
limits of civilized, respectful thinking.
Me sorry.
There's damn all wrong with the 3RD post....
what other country in the world has been created soley for people of one religous faith......... well i'm all ears....... what that.... err.... what
then even after the world had imposed this un-natural state on the People of palistine and given the Jewish religion a country, they still were not satisfied and over the following years stole land off it's smaller,weaker,poorer,innocent,(have the pennies started to drop yet) neighbour.
But you all have a computer in your homes and work places, why don't you check to see for yourselves what the post WWII agreement was on Israel, have a look at the original maps that was agreed by all the non arabic nations of the world.....
Then have a look at the map of Israel today with it's grossley swollen borders where gigantic swathes of land was allocated to jews from all over the world, (palistinian land)
NOW SHOW ME ANY AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWED THIS.......
IF THERE IS NO AGREEMENT, THEN IT IS LAND THEFT.....
ETHNIC CLEANSING OF THE LAND, MURDER AND THEFT....
Israel has forfieted the right to exist because she has abused the trust of the world, all jewish affairs should be run by the United Nations until they have been repatriated to the country of their birth.
Originally posted by iraqi insurgentI don't disagree with the problems you highlight, just your idea for a solution.
There's damn all wrong with the 3RD post....
what other country in the world has been created soley for people of one religous faith......... well i'm all ears....... what that.... err.... what
then even after the world had imposed this un-natural state on the People of palistine and given the Jewish religion a country, they still were not sati ...[text shortened]... e run by the United Nations until they have been repatriated to the country of their birth.
Of course there are no states created solely for people on one faith, of course they stole the land from the Palestinians, of course they have violated international law and UN resolutions ever since, of course they discriminate against non-Jewish people within israel. Etc Etc.
But none of this means that the solution is that israel should be dismantled and its people somehow scattered to the winds. And where would people born in israel be repatriated to?
Originally posted by iraqi insurgentDo you think this will cause more or less tension in the region?
There's damn all wrong with the 3RD post....
what other country in the world has been created soley for people of one religous faith......... well i'm all ears....... what that.... err.... what
then even after the world had imposed this un-natural state on the People of palistine and given the Jewish religion a country, they still were not sati ...[text shortened]... e run by the United Nations until they have been repatriated to the country of their birth.
Originally posted by iraqi insurgentNo country has any right to exist. Countries exist as long as people have the desire to maintain them and/or the strength to defend them.
100%correct.....
Israel has forfieted the right to exist a a country and it should be broken up and it's peoples dispersed back to the countries they came from.
Two problems with your "solution":
1) The Jewish migration to Palestine could have been prevented at the time (rightly or wrongly). But now that it has happened, reversing it might prove difficult. For example, Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu were both born in Palestine (to Russian immigrants). Trying to argue that they should go back to Russia will not work.
2) Israel has nuclear weapons. Therefore they are not going anywhere. Furthermore, no other country that values it's own citizen's lives is going to try to force them.
Originally posted by ICU2Man you are a classic..........
I'm from Israel and I don't see why you are saying Israel should be the first target on war on "terrorism".
For one thing, The city of Ashdod is bombarded daily with Kasam missiles.
Do you think Israel is doing something wrong? Give an example.
when you played blind mans bluff as a child did they not tell you you could take the blind-fold off after the game
Originally posted by iraqi insurgentSend the Palestinians back to Jordan where they belong. i don't think King Abdullah will kill a hundred thousand like his father did.
There's damn all wrong with the 3RD post....
what other country in the world has been created soley for people of one religous faith......... well i'm all ears....... what that.... err.... what
then even after the world had imposed this un-natural state on the People of palistine and given the Jewish religion a country, they still were not sati ...[text shortened]... e run by the United Nations until they have been repatriated to the country of their birth.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungBecause Jordan is also a part of Palestine. King Hussein killed thousands of Palestinians during his reign. People have a tendecy to forget about incident. Too busy blaming Israel when in fact there is a lot of blame to go around.
Why do you think they belong in Jordan?
Originally posted by slimjimSo, wait. All the Palestinians in one part of Palestine should head on over to another part of Palestine?
Because Jordan is also a part of Palestine. King Hussein killed thousands of Palestinians during his reign. People have a tendecy to forget about incident. Too busy blaming Israel when in fact there is a lot of blame to go around.
Why can't they just be spread throughout Palestine?
Nice logic you've got there...
Originally posted by orfeoYou are the one talking about sending the Jews back to where they came from. I'm just saying that Jordan is also a part of Palestine and they could offer land as well for peace.
So, wait. All the Palestinians in [b]one part of Palestine should head on over to another part of Palestine?
Why can't they just be spread throughout Palestine?
Nice logic you've got there...[/b]