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  1. Zugzwang
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    06 Feb '17 21:19
    Israel has been long violating international law in building Jewish settlements
    on occupied Palestinian land.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/06/israel-likely-pass-bill-retroactively-legalising-jewish-settlements

    "Israel likely to pass bill retroactively legalising Jewish settlements'"

    "Israel’s parliament looks likely to approve a controversial bill to
    retroactively “legalise” illegal Jewish outposts built on privately owned
    Palestinian land, setting up inevitable confrontation with the international community."

    "But Israeli media on Monday suggested Netanyahu intended to support
    the bill, which is opposed by Israel’s attorney general whose view is that
    the legislation is unconstitutional, but backed by rightwing ministers in
    Netanyahu’s coalition.

    According to Netanyahu and reports in the Israeli media, the vote on the
    bill, which would essentially snatch private Palestinian land and give it to
    hardline settlers, was coordinated with the Trump administration."
  2. Standard membervivify
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    06 Feb '17 22:212 edits
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/03/trump-says-israeli-settlements-not-impediment-to-peace-but-expansion-unhelpful

    "The Trump administration has broken with longstanding US policy by saying Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory are not “an impediment to peace” but cautioned that a further expansion “may not be helpful” to ending the conflict."

    "The comments came after the new US secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, spoke to the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. Donald Trump is due to meet Netanyahu on 15 February."
  3. Zugzwang
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    06 Feb '17 22:301 edit
    Originally posted by vivify
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/03/trump-says-israeli-settlements-not-impediment-to-peace-but-expansion-unhelpful

    "The Trump administration has broken with longstanding US policy by saying Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory are not “an impediment to peace” but cautioned that a further expansion “may not be helpful” to ending the confli ...[text shortened]... raeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. Donald Trump is due to meet Netanyahu on 15 February."
    US President Trump has appointed Jared Kushner as his senior adviser on the Middle East.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-kushner-idUSKBN15G4W2

    "For hardline West Bank settlers, Jared Kushner's their man"

    In fact, both the Donald Trump Foundation and the foundation of Jared Kushner's
    parents have donated money to build Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank.
    US President Trump already has shown that he approves of Israel's expanding Jewish settlements.

    All the evidence points to US President Trump being even more extremely pro-Israeli
    than the many extremely pro-Israeli US Presidents before him. (Eisenhower might have
    been the last US President to oppose Israel on any major issue--Israel's invasion of Egypt in 1956.)
  4. Subscriberno1marauder
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    06 Feb '17 22:38
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Israel has been long violating international law in building Jewish settlements
    on occupied Palestinian land.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/06/israel-likely-pass-bill-retroactively-legalising-jewish-settlements

    "Israel likely to pass bill retroactively legalising Jewish settlements'"

    "Israel’s parliament looks likely to approve a con ...[text shortened]... stinian land and give it to
    hardline settlers, was coordinated with the Trump administration."
    To be clear, all Israeli settlement in the West Bank violate international law, but the ones they are about to "legalize" violate even Israeli law as they were built without the permission of the Israeli government.
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    06 Feb '17 23:23
    Originally posted by vivify
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/03/trump-says-israeli-settlements-not-impediment-to-peace-but-expansion-unhelpful

    "The Trump administration has broken with longstanding US policy by saying Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory are not “an impediment to peace” but cautioned that a further expansion “may not be helpful” to ending the confli ...[text shortened]... raeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. Donald Trump is due to meet Netanyahu on 15 February."
    Right, either way Israel gets dissed and preached to and attacked, so why not?
  6. Standard membervivify
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    06 Feb '17 23:34
    Originally posted by whodey
    Right, either way Israel gets dissed and preached to and attacked, so why not?
    Israel isn't being attacked here. Israel is stealing.
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    07 Feb '17 01:56
    Originally posted by vivify
    Israel isn't being attacked here. Israel is stealing.
    Israel has been at war since 1948 dingleberry
  8. Standard membervivify
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    07 Feb '17 02:07
    Originally posted by whodey
    Israel has been at war since 1948 dingleberry
    This justifies stealing land...how?
  9. Behind the scenes
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    07 Feb '17 16:24
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    To be clear, all Israeli settlement in the West Bank violate international law, but the ones they are about to "legalize" violate even Israeli law as they were built without the permission of the Israeli government.
    This is very true, but with a right wing Congress in place and a Republican in the White House, Americans are now required to turn a blind eye to this. -And you WILL turn a blind eye to it!!! 😠
  10. Zugzwang
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    07 Feb '17 21:221 edit
    Originally posted by mchill to No1Marauder
    This is very true, but with a right wing Congress in place and a Republican in the White House,
    Americans are now required to turn a blind eye to this. -And you WILL turn a blind eye to it!!! 😠
    Any US citizen could contact one's representatives in Congress and urge that the lavish
    US aid to Israel be eliminated or at least reduced. If enough US citizens begin doing this,
    then perhaps some representatives will stop ignoring criticisms of US support for Israel.
  11. Zugzwang
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    13 Feb '17 00:37
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/10/trump-apparent-u-turn-israeli-settlement-growth

    "Trump in apparent U-turn on Israeli settlement growth:
    US president quoted by Israeli press saying he does not believe advancing
    settlements in Palestinian territories is good for peace."

    But US President Trump still wants to regard Israel as above all criticism.

    "The president [Trump] made clear he did not want to publicly criticise Israel: “I don’t
    want to condemn Israel. Israel has a long history of condemnations and challenges.
    I don’t want to condemn Israel during my administration."
  12. Zugzwang
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    02 Mar '17 22:06
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/02/israel-mp-benefited-from-controversial-law-on-illegal-jewish-outposts

    "Israel MP benefited from controversial law on illegal Jewish outposts:
    Activists say Bezalel Smotrich of Jewish Home party lives in one of houses recently ‘legalised’ by country’s parliament."

    "A far-right Israeli MP who backed a controversial law retroactively “legalising” illegal
    Jewish outposts built on privately-owned Palestinian land will personally benefit from the
    legislation, because his home is one of several thousand covered by the provision, activists have revealed."

    "“It’s living proof and a demonstration that the settlers own personal interest is what’s
    leading the settlers and their representatives in the Israeli parliament. They don’t care
    about the national and political interest of the entire public,” said Tamar Zandberg, an
    MP with the opposition Meretz party.

    “Every principle of rule of law or basic morality is sacrificed, and in its place comes theft,
    occupation and settlements. They prefer taking care of their own private homes, built on
    stolen land, then to pursue a reasonable and achievable future for Israel.”"
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