" Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni has sparked controversy by saying a Palestinian state would provide "a national solution" for Israel's Arabs. [...] Israeli politicians have long grappled with the issue of a growing proportion of ethnic Arabs in the Jewish state. "Transfer" has been mooted explicitly only by far right-wingers in Israel. [...] In remarks to school children broadcast on Israeli radio, Ms Livni's said her solution for maintaining a Jewish and democratic state of Israel was "to have two distinct national entities. Among other things I will also be able to approach the Palestinian residents of Israel... and tell them: 'Your national aspirations lie elsewhere.' "
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/middle_east/7779087.stm
Politicians from the minority Arab community have demanded she clarify if it means that Arabs citizens will face loss of rights in Israel or expulsion. Does this predictable reaction, and apparent opposition, on the part of Israel's Arabs effectively prove what many non-Arab Israelis hace asserted all along: that Israel's minority Arab community simply does not have Israel's best interests at heart?
Originally posted by FMFWhere have I heard this sort of talk before?
" Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni has sparked controversy by saying a Palestinian state would provide "a national solution" for Israel's Arabs. [...] Israeli politicians have long grappled with the issue of a growing proportion of ethnic Arabs in the Jewish state. "Transfer" has been mooted explicitly only by far right-wingers in Israel. [...] In remarks t ...[text shortened]... l's minority Arab community simply does not have Israel's best interests at heart?
Oh yeah... Deutschland for the Aryians.
Originally posted by FMFSounds like an excellent way to start a civil war. Or uncivil, as the case may be.
" Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni has sparked controversy by saying a Palestinian state would provide "a national solution" for Israel's Arabs. [...] Israeli politicians have long grappled with the issue of a growing proportion of ethnic Arabs in the Jewish state. "Transfer" has been mooted explicitly only by far right-wingers in Israel. [...] In remarks t ...[text shortened]... l's minority Arab community simply does not have Israel's best interests at heart?
Originally posted by EladarYou say kicking Arabs out of Israel is a lesser of two evils. What's the other evil? Allowing them to continue living in their own country?
I see nothing wrong with kicking Arabs out of Israel. Jews were kicked out of Arab nations and had everything they owned confiscated. It is a lesser of two evils.
Originally posted by RedmikeAt this point, of course not. The question is how it is done. If Israel opened up gas chambers and burning pits like the Germans did, then I'd have a problem with it. If Isael simply deported the Arab population so that they could be absorbed into other Arab nations, I see nothing wrong with that. Jews have been deported and moved to Israel from Arab nations. There's nothing wrong with returning the favor.
You see nothing wrong with ethnic cleansing?
Forcing people who hate each other to live in the same country isn't a good solution. If the Arabs would stop being violent, then perhaps they could live together.
As I said, it is a lesser of two evils.
Originally posted by EladarYou talk a lot about the "lesser of two evils". Is there a lesser evil than you and your opinions, by any chance?
If Isael simply deported the Arab population so that they could be absorbed into other Arab nations, I see nothing wrong with that. [...] There's nothing wrong with returning the favor. Forcing people who hate each other to live in the same country isn't a good solution. If the Arabs would stop being violent, then perhaps they could live together. As I said, it is a lesser of two evils.
Originally posted by EladarWhat Arab Israeli violence are you referring to?
Forcing people who hate each other to live in the same country isn't a good solution. If the Arabs would stop being violent, then perhaps they could live together.
And who is it exactly who is "forcing" the Jews to live in the same country as the Arab Israelis you claim they "hate"?
Please be clear.
There is always the threat of suicide bombers. Get rid of the Arabs and you get rid of the threat. True, alot of people who would live peacefully are gone too, but that's the trade off.
I think the wall that Israel is building is a great idea. It is just another way to keep out those who would do Israel harm.