Italy: purely covid deaths corrected from 132 161 to 3 783

https://www-iltempo-it.translate.goog/attualita/2021/10/21/news/rapporto-iss-morti-covid-malattie-patologie-come-influenza-pandemia-disastro-mortalita-bechis-29134543/?_x_tr_sl=it&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=it&_x_tr_pto=nui

ITALY – Only 3,783 deaths out of the reported 132,161 in Italy were attributed solely to COVID-19, according to a Higher Institute of Health report.

The virus was listed as the cause of death in cases where it was reportedly only “suspected” or if it “could not be ruled out.”

Comments in English:

https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/11/italy-higher-institute-of-health-covid-deaths-with-no-co-morbidity-corrected-from-132161-to-3783/

🚨🚧Moronity of Gop spliced with extreme gullibility and splattered with ridiculous hope alert!🚧🚨

Seriously. One google search is all it would have taken to save yourself embarrassement.
When you read something so bloody far-fetched, bells should be ringing. But you’re so wrapped up in your rabbit hole you’re willing and wanting to believe anything that can support your crazy theories.

1. There is no international conspiracy with a secret agenda to control you through some disease or protection programme.
2. There is a virus all countries are trying to tackle.
3. The real death tolls will usually be higher than those recorded. Very rarely lower.

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/6195621001

Throughout the coronavirus pandemic, Italy has been among the hardest-hit countries in Europe. But a social media post claims officials have dramatically lowered the country's death count.

"Italy reduces covid death toll from 130K to 3,783," reads an apparent headline shared Oct. 18 on Instagram.

The text in the image goes on to say the "Italian Department of Health casually revised its 'Covid-19' official death toll down from over 130,000 to 3783."

The image is a screengrab from an article posted on NexusNewsfeed.com, which describes itself as a "vehicle for like-minded, independent thinkers to help create something new."

But the claim is wrong. Italy's Ministry of Health hasn't decreased the official death toll, and the number in the post doesn't correspond to how many people have died from the virus.

The user who shared the image on Instagram told USA TODAY in a direct message that she posted it because she was asking "Italians to chime in and help us all understand."

I do not read shavixmir's comments.

@eintaluj said
I do not read shavixmir's comments.

@eintaluj said
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ITALY – Only 3,783 deaths out of the reported 132,161 in Italy were attributed solely to COVID-19, according to a Higher Institute of Health report.

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@eintaluj said
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@eintaluj said
I do not read shavixmir's comments.

@eintaluj said
I do not read shavixmir's comments.

@jimmac said
I do note that at least one of our " mainstream " TV networks has very recently changed its language from, today x number died "from" covid to, today x number died "with" covid. Hmmm. I wonder why? This is in Australia.

@jimm619 said
.......Good God, Check this site;
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@averagejoe1 said
That then means you don’t read about half of the libs comments. There are much worse.

@eintaluj said
The problem is the following. To evaluate the vaccine, whether it can or should be used, the efficacy of the vaccine is important, the seriousness of the disease is important, and the side-effects of the vaccine are important. There has to be some right balance.

Now, those who died WITH Covid because of unknown reasons were counted as died FROM Covid.

But none of tho ...[text shortened]... biased, favouring the use of those vaccines and underestimating the side effects of those vaccines.

@eintaluj said
I have not made a classification in that manner. But I note that they are NOT liberals. The liberals are defending free speech. Right now, it is head down because the so-called conservatives are defending free speech.

There was a time when Voltaire defended free speech against Catholics.
Today, the Catholics defend free speech against so-called "liberals".

They are not liberals. They are pseudo-liberals.

@eintaluj said
I have not made a classification in that manner. But I note that they are NOT liberals. The liberals are defending free speech. Right now, it is head down because the so-called conservatives are defending free speech.

There was a time when Voltaire defended free speech against Catholics.
Today, the Catholics defend free speech against so-called "liberals".

They are not liberals. They are pseudo-liberals.

@eintaluj said
This contains one interpretation of the statistics. The Italian paper, that can be translated to English with Google Translate, is the statistics without such interpretations.