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    Here we are in the midst of the most significant and uncertain time in British political history since 'the war', and nobody's talking about it. How very British.

    (I'm not talking about it, by the way.)
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    @indonesia-phil said
    Here we are in the midst of the most significant and uncertain time in British political history since 'the war', and nobody's talking about it. How very British.

    (I'm not talking about it, by the way.)
    Well, it's all down to parliament now. How they (mis)manage it will decide what happens next...

    I would say that there would be protests if they continue to 'screw it up', but I think British people are averse to 'doing it the French way'.
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    @ashiitaka said
    Well, it's all down to parliament now. How they (mis)manage it will decide what happens next...

    I would say that there would be protests if they continue to 'screw it up', but I think British people are averse to 'doing it the French way'.
    The fascist socialist will never allow Brexit.

    The EU is like the mob, you can quit but you can never leave once you join.
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    @ashiitaka said
    Well, it's all down to parliament now. How they (mis)manage it will decide what happens next...

    I would say that there would be protests if they continue to 'screw it up', but I think British people are averse to 'doing it the French way'.
    They certainly are (averse) these days, one thing that has struck me is the general apathy of the great British public, especially young people. Back in my day we used to protest about everything. I suppose the difference is that this isn't 'political' in the usual sense of the word, so it's all a bit confusing....
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    @whodey said
    The fascist socialist will never allow Brexit.

    The EU is like the mob, you can quit but you can never leave once you join.
    Which fascist socialist?
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    @indonesia-phil said
    Which fascist socialist?
    I meant to put an "S" on the word socialist.

    Remember, socialism only works if it can be forced on all and once it is in place nothing can oppose it to reverse it.

    In that sense, they are fascists. Just ask the Nazi democrat socialists about that.

    Speaking of which, why would the UK willingly surrender its sovereignty to a continent that they fought two great wars to be free from?

    Baffling really.
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    @whodey said
    The fascist socialist will never allow Brexit.

    The EU is like the mob, you can quit but you can never leave once you join.
    Which is it, fool, fascist or socialist?

    It cannot be both.
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    @whodey said
    I meant to put an "S" on the word socialist.

    Remember, socialism only works if it can be forced on all and once it is in place nothing can oppose it to reverse it.

    In that sense, they are fascists. Just ask the Nazi democrat socialists about that.

    Speaking of which, why would the UK willingly surrender its sovereignty to a continent that they fought two great wars to be free from?

    Baffling really.
    They fought the Hundred Years’ war to be part of the continent but that was a long time ago
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    @athousandyoung said
    They fought the Hundred Years’ war to be part of the continent but that was a long time ago
    "Calais was regarded for many years as being an integral part of the Kingdom of England,
    with its representatives sitting in the English Parliament. The continued English hold
    on Calais however depended on expensively maintained fortifications, as the town
    lacked any natural defences. Maintaining Calais was a costly business that was
    frequently tested by the forces of France and the Duchy of Burgundy, with the
    Franco-Burgundian border running nearby.[19] The British historian Geoffrey Elton
    once remarked "Calais—expensive and useless—was better lost than kept".[20]
    The duration of the English hold over Calais was, to a large extent, the result of the
    feud between Burgundy and France, under which both sides coveted the town, but
    preferred to see it in the hands of the English rather than their domestic rivals."
    --Wikipedia
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    At one point they had more than Calais. Half of what is now France was considered part of England. Some call it the Angevin Empire.

    Well technically the French territories were ruled by the King of England but weren’t considered part of England.
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    @whodey said
    The EU is like the mob, you can quit but you can never leave once you join.
    The EU do not have a say as to whether or not the UK leaves.

    You are just making stuff up as usual.
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    @whodey said
    Speaking of which, why would the UK willingly surrender its sovereignty to a continent that they fought two great wars to be free from?
    Dont forget Gibraltar!!
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    @whodey said
    Speaking of which, why would the UK willingly surrender its sovereignty to a continent that they fought two great wars to be free from?
    Wars to be free from Europe?
    I can only think of one. (And it's not either you are thinking of.)
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    are grapes expensive in the UK?
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    @whodey said
    I meant to put an "S" on the word socialist.

    Remember, socialism only works if it can be forced on all and once it is in place nothing can oppose it to reverse it.

    In that sense, they are fascists. Just ask the Nazi democrat socialists about that.

    Speaking of which, why would the UK willingly surrender its sovereignty to a continent that they fought two great wars to be free from?

    Baffling really.
    The world must be an awfully confusing place for you.
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