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  1. 19 Oct '13 19:32
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko-gP0tpqCM

    It seems that all the way back in 1974, John Wayne was labeled a right winged extremist. He also notes how the media is left winged as well.

    Funny how some things never change.
  2. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    19 Oct '13 19:35 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko-gP0tpqCM

    It seems that all the way back in 1974, John Wayne was labeled a right winged extremist. He also notes how the media is left winged as well.

    Funny how some things never change.
    I like when John Wayne said young men need to step up and be tough guys for the good of the country.

    I think this is it - John Wayne's advice to young Americans - "It's time for you younger guys to take over":

    The Nazi images are irrelevant to the speech, sorry
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqC_iWJCOL8&bpctr=1382214183

    John Wayne went to school at the University of Southern California, Cali represent.
  3. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    20 Oct '13 03:01
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko-gP0tpqCM

    It seems that all the way back in 1974, John Wayne was labeled a right winged extremist. He also notes how the media is left winged as well.

    Funny how some things never change.
    Indeed. When pollsters predicted President Obama would win a 2nd term, republicans dismissed it as "liberal bias" and had their own pollsters predicting Mitt Romney would win a sweeping victory, they also had their own pollsters predicting the GOP would win back the Senate. The "Liberal Media" is ANY news organization that tells republicans something they don't want to hear.
  4. 20 Oct '13 13:05
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko-gP0tpqCM

    It seems that all the way back in 1974, John Wayne was labeled a right winged extremist. He also notes how the media is left winged as well.

    Funny how some things never change.
    If John Wayne was here he would probably tell moon, " a big mouth don't make a big man".
  5. 20 Oct '13 18:49
    Originally posted by bill718
    Indeed. When pollsters predicted President Obama would win a 2nd term, republicans dismissed it as "liberal bias" and had their own pollsters predicting Mitt Romney would win a sweeping victory, they also had their own pollsters predicting the GOP would win back the Senate. The "Liberal Media" is ANY news organization that tells republicans something they don't want to hear.
    Just to clarify things, you do not believe there is a liberal bias in the media. Is this correct?
  6. 20 Oct '13 21:31
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    If John Wayne was here he would probably tell moon, " a big mouth don't make a big man".
    and moon would probably say, anyone called Marion shouldn't be lecturing others on manliness!
  7. 20 Oct '13 21:35
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    and moon would probably say, anyone called Marion shouldn't be lecturing others on manliness!
    Or he may say a kinda feminine name don't make a little man. LOL
  8. 20 Oct '13 21:54
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    Or he may say a kinda feminine name don't make a little man. LOL
    he might! he might! Im sure there are plenty of big dudes called Marion
  9. 20 Oct '13 22:00
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    he might! he might! Im sure there are plenty of big dudes called Marion
    We got a boy named Suh playing defensive tackle in Detroit.
  10. 20 Oct '13 22:02
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko-gP0tpqCM

    It seems that all the way back in 1974, John Wayne was labeled a right winged extremist. He also notes how the media is left winged as well.

    Funny how some things never change.
    The basic things that get the TEA party labeled extremist right wing, are really classical liberal ideas.
  11. 20 Oct '13 22:06
    Originally posted by normbenign
    We got a boy named Suh playing defensive tackle in Detroit.
    Suh? short for Susan, bwhahaha, that was Mandarks name in Dexters laboratory, episode a boy named Sue, its brilliant

    http://www.tubeplus.me/player/853089/Dexter
  12. 20 Oct '13 23:49
    Originally posted by normbenign
    The basic things that get the TEA party labeled extremist right wing, are really classical liberal ideas.
    You are right!!!! The terms have changed meaning a bit over time.
  13. 21 Oct '13 00:15
    Originally posted by normbenign
    The basic things that get the TEA party labeled extremist right wing, are really classical liberal ideas.
    Yes, personal freedom of choice is a common element, except when it isn't.

    http://www.ontheissues.org/Tea_Party.htm
  14. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    21 Oct '13 05:52
    Originally posted by normbenign
    We got a boy named Suh playing defensive tackle in Detroit.
    I bet he's got gravel in his gut and spit in his eye.
  15. 21 Oct '13 06:07
    Originally posted by normbenign
    We got a boy named Suh playing defensive tackle in Detroit.
    role model, according to Wikipedia:

    quote:

    Suh has been criticized in the media and by other players for his aggressive style of play and has been fined a total of $177,500 by the league for three violations in the first year-and-a-half of his career. In a poll of fellow players conducted by the Sporting News, Suh was named "the dirtiest player" in the NFL.[43] As of December 2011, he had been flagged for nine personal fouls in his first two years, the most of any player in the league in that time frame.[44] He was named the NFL's "Least-Liked Player" in a Forbes-publicized Nielsen report in October 2012.[45]
    2011 stomping incident

    During the third quarter of the Lions' Thanksgiving game against the Green Bay Packers on November 24, 2011, Suh pushed Packers' offensive lineman Evan Dietrich-Smith's head into the ground three times, then stomped on his arm. All of this took place after the whistle was blown. Suh was penalized for unnecessary roughness and ejected from the game.[46] The resulting penalty gave the Packers an automatic first down. The Packers would score a touchdown two plays later, giving them a 14–0 lead and an eventual 27–15 victory.

    Initially, Suh denied stomping on Dietrich-Smith, saying he was only trying to get his balance back.[47] However, on Friday morning, the Lions issued a statement calling Suh's actions "unacceptable." Within hours, Suh wrote on his Facebook page that he'd "made a mistake" a day before and intended to learn from it.[48] Fox Sports NFL rules analyst and former vice president of officiating Mike Pereira said that based on his knowledge of league discipline, "the question won’t be if the NFL will suspend Suh, but when — and for how many games." He drew parallels between Suh's actions and those of Albert Haynesworth, who drew a five-game suspension—the longest suspension for an on-field incident in modern NFL history—for stomping on Andre Gurode's head in 2006.[44]

    On November 29, the NFL suspended Suh for two games without pay. In announcing the decision, Roger Goodell noted that it was the fifth time Suh had been disciplined for on-field conduct.[49] Soon after the suspension was handed down, Suh announced he would appeal the decision. The NFL held an expedited hearing before former Oakland Raiders coach Art Shell, so that a decision could be handed down before the Lions' next game, on December 4, against the New Orleans Saints.[50] The appeal was turned down on December 2, forcing Suh to sit out the game against the Saints and the December 11 game against the Minnesota Vikings.[51]
    2012 groin kick incident

    The following Thanksgiving, on November 22, 2012, Suh was involved in a play in which he kicked Houston Texans quarterback Matt Schaub in the groin. The incident resulted in a $30,000 fine from the league, nearly double the mandated fine for a second offense of "striking/kicking/kneeing" an opponent.[52] There was speculation the size of the fine was recognition by the league of Suh's history of questionable on-field hits, while others viewed it as a "wishy-washy" and "cop-out" action by the league in issuing a large fine without a suspension.[52][53]

    In issuing the fine, Roger Goodell stated, "“Any time you see a play like that, you want to say, ‘Why did it happen?’ It’s hard for us to be able to determine that just from video. Those are the things that sometimes you have to talk to Ndamukong in this case, or the player, but intent is something that’s very difficult for us to ever try to make a judgment on.”[53] Suh denied the kick was intentional, stating his foot inadvertently hit Schaub as he was being dragged to the ground.[53]
    2013 low block incident

    In the Lions' Week 1 victory over the Minnesota Vikings, 34–24, Suh low blocked John Sullivan during a DeAndre Levy "pick 6"; the resulting personal foul nullified Levy's touchdown. Two days after the game, Suh was fined $100,000 for the hit—which, not counting lost pay for suspensions, is the largest fine ever issued to a player for on-the-field actions. He would appeal the fine but the ruling was later upheld by the NFL,[54] bringing the total fines levied against Suh to $177,500.[55]
    2013 hard hit incident

    In the Lions' Week 6 victory over the Cleveland Browns, Suh tackled Browns QB Brandon Weeden in a questionable manner. Though not called for a penalty during the game, Suh was later fined $31,500 by the NFL. This brings the total fines levied against him to $209,000.