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    Why is it that Obama can go to Cuba to make nice and open relations with Raul Castro and the media glows with approval, but when Trump tries to keep relations with Saudi Arabia open over one murder all hell breaks loose?

    Raul Castro is known to be responsible for thousands and thousands of murderers, yet no one in the media flinched.

    If you shake hands with a world leader, odds are you are shaking hands with a sociopathic murderer.

    That's just the reality of things.

    https://canadafreepress.com/article/raul-castros-long-history-of-crimes-against-humanity
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    21 Nov '18 13:33
    @whodey said
    Why is it that Obama can go to Cuba to make nice and open relations with Raul Castro and the media glows with approval, but when Trump tries to keep relations with Saudi Arabia open over one murder all hell breaks loose?

    Raul Castro is known to be responsible for thousands and thousands of murderers, yet no one in the media flinched.

    If you shake hands with a world leade ...[text shortened]... things.

    https://canadafreepress.com/article/raul-castros-long-history-of-crimes-against-humanity
    The mere fact you don’t know or can’t tell the difference between Cuba and Saudi-Arabia is quite telling.

    However, we already guessed as much.
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    21 Nov '18 14:15
    @shavixmir said
    The mere fact you don’t know or can’t tell the difference between Cuba and Saudi-Arabia is quite telling.

    However, we already guessed as much.
    Well Shav, that's why we have you.

    Do tell.
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    21 Nov '18 15:142 edits
    @whodey said
    Why is it that Obama can go to Cuba to make nice and open relations with Raul Castro and the media glows with approval, but when Trump tries to keep relations with Saudi Arabia open over one murder all hell breaks loose?

    Raul Castro is known to be responsible for thousands and thousands of murderers, yet no one in the media flinched.

    If you shake hands with a world leade ...[text shortened]... things.

    https://canadafreepress.com/article/raul-castros-long-history-of-crimes-against-humanity
    It's all in the motive. Obama's trying to usher in peace; Trump has personal business dealings with SA.

    Get it? One is an attempt to make the world a better place, the other's a thinly veiled attempt to fatten pockets.
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    @vivify said
    It's all in the motive. Obama's trying to usher in peace; Trump has personal business dealings with SA.

    Get it? One is an attempt to make the world a better place, the other's a thinly veiled attempt to fatten pockets.
    I see, so Trump wants war?

    Seems to me that Obama started a war, not Trump.

    In fact, pretty much every US war, except maybe Desert Storm, was started by a Dim

    Again, the Left is very war like and murderous.
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    21 Nov '18 15:18
    @shavixmir said
    The mere fact you don’t know or can’t tell the difference between Cuba and Saudi-Arabia is quite telling.

    However, we already guessed as much.
    why don't you tell us the difference? how is one kind of killing different from another
    ?
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    @vivify said
    It's all in the motive. Obama's trying to usher in peace; Trump has personal business dealings with SA.

    Get it? One is an attempt to make the world a better place, the other's a thinly veiled attempt to fatten pockets.
    "Trump has personal business dealings with SA. "

    I will give you a chance to prove this before I say you are lying...GO!
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    21 Nov '18 15:42
    @whodey said
    Well Shav, that's why we have you.

    Do tell.
    Oh, let’s see...
    One’s a semi-communist State, the other is a State with the most extreme form of Islam available...

    One country’s criminals become active participants in the US economy, the other country’s criminals fly aeroplanes into buildings...

    One country had suffered 40+ years of extreme sanctions, one has not.

    One country has equal rights for women, one has not.

    One country has leadership worshipped by the US government, the other had leadership the US has attempted to assissinate 50+ times (Fidel, not the current miscreant).

    Need I go on?
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    @mott-the-hoople said
    "Trump has personal business dealings with SA. "

    I will give you a chance to prove this before I say you are lying...GO!
    "I have nothing against Saudi Arabia. I do a lot of business with Saudi Arabia, I think they're great, they're wonderful, they buy my apartments, and they pay me a fortune." - Donald on Imus in the Morning, June 2015

    "Saudi Arabia, I like the Saudis," Trump said at a July 2015 rally. "I make a lot of money with them. They buy all sorts of my stuff. All kinds of toys from Trump. They pay me millions and hundred of millions."

    https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1052193155011960834?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1052193155011960834&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnbc.com%2F2018%2F10%2F16%2Ftrump-says-no-financial-interests-in-saudi-arabia-but-makes-money.html
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    "Oil prices getting lower. Great! Like a big Tax Cut for America and the World. Enjoy! $54, was just $82. Thank you to Saudi Arabia, but let’s go lower!"

    How the F can someone have such an alarming lack of class??

    It boggles the mind.
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    @great-king-rat said
    "Oil prices getting lower. Great! Like a big Tax Cut for America and the World. Enjoy! $54, was just $82. Thank you to Saudi Arabia, but let’s go lower!"

    How the F can someone have such an alarming lack of class??

    It boggles the mind.
    Check out his tweet from a few days back about "Adam Schitt." Yes, really.
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    @great-king-rat said
    "Oil prices getting lower. Great! Like a big Tax Cut for America and the World. Enjoy! $54, was just $82. Thank you to Saudi Arabia, but let’s go lower!"

    How the F can someone have such an alarming lack of class??

    It boggles the mind.
    You are not sticking to the talking points.

    The narrative is that Trump personally has too much money tied into Saudi Arabia to slap their hands, and not that the entire US has an interest in it.

    Please do your homework before posting.
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    @shavixmir said
    Oh, let’s see...
    One’s a semi-communist State, the other is a State with the most extreme form of Islam available...

    One country’s criminals become active participants in the US economy, the other country’s criminals fly aeroplanes into buildings...

    One country had suffered 40+ years of extreme sanctions, one has not.

    One country has equal rights for women, one ha ...[text shortened]... p the US has attempted to assissinate 50+ times (Fidel, not the current miscreant).

    Need I go on?
    So how many people has Raul murdered compared to the Saudi Prince, or does that not matter anymore?
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    @whodey said
    So how many people has Raul murdered compared to the Saudi Prince, or does that not matter anymore?
    Hey.
    Still working on that definition of sex?

    Maybe finish one debate before starting another.
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    @whodey said
    You are not sticking to the talking points.

    The narrative is that Trump personally has too much money tied into Saudi Arabia to slap their hands, and not that the entire US has an interest in it.

    Please do your homework before posting.
    Oh, it's because the US has an "interest" in it?

    You think someone who tried to end the healthcare coverage of 30 million people for the benefit of insurance companies cares about US interests?

    You think someone who gave the rich 1.5 trillion in tax cuts that the rest of the country will have to pay for cares about US interests?

    You think a man who sided with Putin over US intelligence regarding Russian election meddling cares about U.S. interests?

    Is Trump being nice to SA because he cares about US interests? Oooooorrrr........is it because they're paying him obscene amounts of money?

    You are a shameless partisan hack.
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