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No we don’t need it. But we, for global security, need to Control it.

I venture you don’t know what the cake thingy even means.

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@Rajk999 said
In Europe maybe gasoline driven cars might be a thing of the past, but for the rest of the world they will be here for another 50 years at least, most likely more.
If a gay and a man were approaching a gas and an EV car, which would get into each?
Riiiiggghhht

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@Ponderable said
And that (Trump could have said this) is a strategy to win and keep friends?

I like the English understatement better than the US big mouthedness.
Bullies! Did I spell it right, Alice?

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Heh this is embarassing

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
This absolute mess is America's to sort out.
Well I guess we can’t count on any of you anyway, it was dumb move. For a group of people that in war would defiantly need our help, do we really need yours if it came down to it? All Trump asked for was a couple of mine detector ships to protect everyone else’s oil. Starmer is to worried about the Muslim vote and he’s a weak da. Let’s not forget France, Germany and every other liberal flake leader.

I guess it’s better to find out now what kind of allies all of you really are instead of a larger conflict. Like I said dumb.

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@mike69 said
Well I guess we can’t count on any of you anyway, it was dumb move. For a group of people that in war would defiantly need our help, do we really need yours if it came down to it? All Trump asked for was a couple of mine detector ships to protect everyone else’s oil. Starmer is to worried about the Muslim vote and he’s a weak da. Let’s not forget France, Germany and every o ...[text shortened]... d out now what kind of allies all of you really are instead of a larger conflict. Like I said dumb.
Yes, yes. Everyone else has got it wrong, Not Trump....


The idea that allies will follow the US blindly into an ill conceived conflict of his own making (let's face it, as Israel's puppet) is ridiculous.

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@Rajk999 said
In Europe maybe gasoline driven cars might be a thing of the past, but for the rest of the world they will be here for another 50 years at least, most likely more.
No one knows (or cares) how to make cars that will last for 50 years anymore, certainly not 'throwaway' USA.

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@mike69 said
Well I guess we can’t count on any of you anyway, it was dumb move. For a group of people that in war would defiantly need our help, do we really need yours if it came down to it? All Trump asked for was a couple of mine detector ships to protect everyone else’s oil. Starmer is to worried about the Muslim vote and he’s a weak da. Let’s not forget France, Germany and every o ...[text shortened]... d out now what kind of allies all of you really are instead of a larger conflict. Like I said dumb.
With a human being as president, Europe would remain allies, but not with an American man-child running the show. No one likes being insulted by a bully who then asks for their help. Hypocrite Trumpublicans.

Even US citizens are tiring of the sheer hypocrisy.

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@mike69 said
Well I guess we can’t count on any of you anyway, it was dumb move. For a group of people that in war would defiantly need our help, do we really need yours if it came down to it? All Trump asked for was a couple of mine detector ships to protect everyone else’s oil. Starmer is to worried about the Muslim vote and he’s a weak da. Let’s not forget France, Germany and every o ...[text shortened]... d out now what kind of allies all of you really are instead of a larger conflict. Like I said dumb.
Yes, dumb.

"Haha, charade you are."

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@AverageJoe1 said
If a gay and a man were approaching a gas and an EV car, which would get into each?
Riiiiggghhht
Who cares??

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There’s no bread let them eat cake
There’s no end to what they’ll take
Flaunt the fruits of noble birth
Wash the salt into the earth
But they’re marching to Bastille Day
La guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Free the dungeons of the innocent
The king will kneel, and let his kingdom rise

Bloodstained velvet, dirty lace
Naked fear on every face
See them bow their heads to die
As we would bow as they rode by

And we’re marching to Bastille Day
La guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Sing, o choirs of cacophony
The king has kneeled, to let his kingdom rise.

Lessons taught, but never learned
All around us anger burns
Guide the future by the past
Long ago the mould was cast

For they marched up to Bastille Day
La guillotine – claimed her bloody prize
Hear the echoes of the centuries
Power isn’t all that money buys

"Bastille Day", Rush, Caress of Steel, 1975

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@mike69 said
Well I guess we can’t count on any of you anyway, it was dumb move. For a group of people that in war would defiantly need our help, do we really need yours if it came down to it? All Trump asked for was a couple of mine detector ships to protect everyone else’s oil. Starmer is to worried about the Muslim vote and he’s a weak da. Let’s not forget France, Germany and every o ...[text shortened]... d out now what kind of allies all of you really are instead of a larger conflict. Like I said dumb.
Golly, do libs think the other world leaders don't like Trump? Tell us why.

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@Suzianne said
With a human being as president, Europe would remain allies, but not with an American man-child running the show. No one likes being insulted by a bully who then asks for their help. Hypocrite Trumpublicans.

Even US citizens are tiring of the sheer hypocrisy.
Please opine with a good post.
Twok questions.
Why would they want to help the USA in this campaign
Why would they NOT want to help the USA in the campaign

This is a debate forum, ladies and gentlemen. Shall we give it a try? It would be helpful to not mention the name Trump, being inflammatory.

Side Note for Contretemps: Watch what happens...or doesn't.

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@AverageJoe1 said
Please opine with a good post.
Twok questions.
Why would they want to help the USA in this campaign
Why would they NOT want to help the USA in the campaign

This is a debate forum, ladies and gentlemen. Shall we give it a try? It would be helpful to not mention the name Trump, being inflammatory.

Side Note for Contretemps: Watch what happens...or doesn't.
Apparently, Iranian oil tankers and ships from nations that Iran considers friendly and ask nice are being allowed to traverse the Strait.https://apnews.com/article/ships-iran-oil-china-us-trump-hormuz-82a9acb473837f1bf7a821d0c3f95205

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@no1marauder said
Apparently, Iranian oil tankers and ships from nations that Iran considers friendly and ask nice are being allowed to traverse the Strait.https://apnews.com/article/ships-iran-oil-china-us-trump-hormuz-82a9acb473837f1bf7a821d0c3f95205
God what a dodge. All of you beginning debaters, this is textbook stuff of what not to do.
This rendering sounds like an answer, but it actually dodges my question. He shifted from why countries would or wouldn’t support the U.S. to a narrow tactical point about shipping in the Strait of Hormuz. One of his fallback standard-fare tactical moves.
He does not address either of the questions!!

Pointing out that Iran may allow certain ships through the Strait of Hormuz doesn’t explain why other nations would choose to support or oppose the United States in a broader campaign. That’s an observation, not an answer.

You are being called out to answer the questions.