30 Jun 08
With Europeans failing to reproduce themselves, will there be "...a continent-wide takeover by third-world hordes -- mostly Muslim -- who will change, if not delete European culture," asks Russell Shorto in a fascinating essay in the Sunday New York Times magazine:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/magazine/29Birth-t.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=%22russell+shorto%22&st=nyt&oref=slogin
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterNot again with this muslim-paranoia, please? 🙄
With Europeans failing to reproduce themselves, will there be "...a continent-wide takeover by third-world hordes -- mostly Muslim -- who will change, if not delete European culture," asks Russell Shorto in a fascinating essay in the Sunday New York Times magazine:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/magazine/29Birth-t.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=%22russell+shorto%22&st=nyt&oref=slogin
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterIt is interesting that you did not complete the quote:
With Europeans failing to reproduce themselves, will there be "...a continent-wide takeover by third-world hordes -- mostly Muslim -- who will change, if not delete European culture," asks Russell Shorto in a fascinating essay in the Sunday New York Times magazine:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/magazine/29Birth-t.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=%22russell+shorto%22&st=nyt&oref=slogin
"...The fears on the right are of a continent-wide takeover by third-world hordes — mostly Muslim — who have yet to be infected by the modern malady called family planning and who threaten to transform, if not completely delete, the storied, cherished cultures of Western Europe. "
"The fears on the right"...that would be right wingers like yourself.
EDIT - oh and you misquoted; it didn't say "...who will change...", but instead said "...who threaten to transform...".
How typical of a Bush supporter to rewrite history!
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by howardgeeHowie, you're the one re-writing, I saw your original post and your edit was to remove 'facist' try to be honest.
It is interesting that you did not complete the quote:
"...The fears on the right are of a continent-wide takeover by third-world hordes — mostly Muslim — who have yet to be infected by the modern malady called family planning and who threaten to transform, if not completely delete, the storied, cherished cultures of Western Europe. "
"The fears on t ...[text shortened]... "...who threaten to transform...".
How typical of a Bush supporter to rewrite history!
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by howardgeeHowie, please turn out the lights.
It is interesting that you did not complete the quote:
"...The fears on the right are of a continent-wide takeover by third-world hordes — mostly Muslim — who have yet to be infected by the modern malady called family planning and who threaten to transform, if not completely delete, the storied, cherished cultures of Western Europe. "
"The fears on t ...[text shortened]... "...who threaten to transform...".
How typical of a Bush supporter to rewrite history!
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by WajomaWell, I got one word for you (in case this "scandal" surprised you):
A bit off topic but check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnMtc_QJ4-E
"politician". That's what they are and what they do. They've been
surprisingly open about it in the past decade or so, but they've been doing
pretty much the same thing since the beginning of civilisation: taking a
disproportionately large wage for doing practically nothing.
Politicians.
And people ask why I dislike them. HA!
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by WajomaIt's no wonder the EU politicians don't like being scrutinized -- they're stealing the public's money!
A bit off topic but check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnMtc_QJ4-E
Here is another interesting presentation right on the same page as yours:
&feature=related
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterIt's not on the same page at all. What you posted is anti-muslim
Here is another interesting presentation right on the same page as yours:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jLMuhVCL_E&feature=related
propaganda. What he posted was a serious report on politicians taking
money for doing nothing. It's not the same page at all.
Nice try, I suppose. 🙄
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by JigtieHow can it be propaganda -- they're all news stories?
It's not on the same page at all. What you posted is anti-muslim
propaganda. What he posted was a serious report on politicians taking
money for doing nothing. It's not the same page at all.
Nice try, I suppose. 🙄
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterRight. My bad. I forgot. The media has neeeeeever told a story from a
How can it be propaganda -- they're all news stories?
skewed perspective. You're right. The immigrants are taking over and we
should all live in fear for the muslim takeover that is bound to come unless
we fight them with all we've got.
HA HA HA HA!
You are funny. You are that.
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by JigtieOK -- you can take that half of the question out, but there still remains the problem of rapidly declining European birthrates:
Right. My bad. I forgot. The media has neeeeeever told a story from a
skewed perspective. You're right. The immigrants are taking over and we
should all live in fear for the muslim takeover that is bound to come unless
we fight them with all we've got.
HA HA HA HA!
You are funny. You are that.
...For the first time on record, birthrates in southern and Eastern Europe had dropped below 1.3. For the demographers, this number had a special mathematical portent. At that rate, a country’s population would be cut in half in 45 years, creating a falling-off-a-cliff effect from which it would be nearly impossible to recover. Kohler and his colleagues invented an ominous new term for the phenomenon: “lowest-low fertility.”
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterWell, you can't demand that people start making more babies to save
OK -- you can take that half of the question out, but there still remains the problem of rapidly declining European birthrates:
...For the first time on record, birthrates in southern and Eastern Europe had dropped below 1.3. For the demographers, this number had a special mathematical portent. At that rate, a country’s population would be cut ...[text shortened]... hler and his colleagues invented an ominous new term for the phenomenon: “lowest-low fertility.”
Europe's culture (whatever that is). That's dumb. What guarantee do you
have that the next generation of Europeans (whatever their bloodline)
will even want to preserve the European "culture" and way of life? If
Europe's population in the future will have their geographical and cultural
roots elsewhere, so be it. As long as it's not by force, who cares? And
they too will probably find the freedom and beneficial way of life that
comes with having a democratic, secular rule much more preferable to
the dictatorships of some muslim countries we see today. It doesn't say
in the Qur'an to conquer the world and make everyone a muslim any
more than the bible encourages to make everyone a christian. Hm. Ok,
some would certainly see it as their duty to convert people (they're
annoying those religious people), but I hardly think they'll try it by force.
There's a reason that a lot of people flee those countries to live in
Europe, and that reason will be remembered and honoured if they're
treated right. Which, many of them are not, but that's a whole other
debate.
Personally, the only people I sometimes fear are instigators such as
yourself. When people like you spook enough idiots bad things are
bound to happen, like persecutions and stuff. And the sad part is that
your kind can be found in any group of people. The very reason we have
war and hatred, in fact.
Things change. They always have and always will. It's folly to try and
preserve everything the way it is. It will change no matter what. The
question is, how can you help make it change into something positive? I
don't think filling people with fear and hatred is the best way, do you?