@AverageJoe1 saidStop pissing on us and calling it 'trickle-down'.
Marauder does not such a good job of evading this simple issue. Here it is. The democrats are behind the teachings of Mamdan. One dictum is to discourage the concept, that advent, the existence of Billionaires. NO BILLIONAIRES... Jesus.
If effect then, around the kitchen table, we are to expound this philosphy. My OP? That, we naturally would have to instill thi ...[text shortened]... 'mon you can debate this on a reasonable level. Cute comments fall flat. Only Sue gets to do that.
@AverageJoe1 saidBetter get busy then.
Some people, some here, need to search their souls
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VowT8L8Uu6k
@AverageJoe1 saidHaving listened to your clip, I have one question for you. Why should not everyone thrive? Why should the system empower only the few at the expense of the many?
Some people, some here, need to search their souls
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VowT8L8Uu6k
@kmax87 saidYour flaw in the comment is that 'the system', whatever that is as you do not define it, does not 'empower'. It creates opportunity. So, I will say instead, capitalism and freedom create (not empower) a playing field of equality. Maybe your avenue here is to say there is no equality? Go for it.
Having listened to your clip, I have one question for you. Why should not everyone thrive? Why should the system empower only the few at the expense of the many?
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@Suzianne saidlet's make a deal!!!
Why don't you leave all LGBTQ+ people the hell alone?
Hey, why won't Marauder answer my friendly question, about the effect, the nature, of the govt $10K loan to a college graduate. Grad does not pay it off. The dollars of course moved from the college coffers to pay salaries etc, put food on family tables. The dollars moved on. Tangible. Real money.
So, govt never got repaid those real dollars. I asked him in effect if the govt is short by that $10,000. ( like if you have $10, and loan me $1, you are 'short' $1).
I am aware he will never answer it, but the issue is...Why Won't He??
@AverageJoe1 saidFunny though how generational wealth and access to power seems to run with those who have money. Sure you have Musk and Bezos, but scratch the surface and the system tends to empower those who have.
Your flaw in the comment is that 'the system', whatever that is as you do not define it, does not 'empower'. It creates opportunity. So, I will say instead, capitalism and freedom create (not empower) a playing field of equality. Maybe your avenue here is to say there is no equality? Go for it.
@kmax87 saidC'mon. Common sense. it is not hard to understand. If I have $10000, and you have $50,000, if you and I make the same investment with a 5% return, I will end up with a $500 profit. You would profit $2500.00. This seems normal to me, and goes on with millions of people each day.
Funny though how generational wealth and access to power seems to run with those who have money. Sure you have Musk and Bezos, but scratch the surface and the system tends to empower those who have.
So your issue can only be,,,,what,,,,that each person should have the same exact amount to invest?? The people DO have the same percentage of return on their investments.
PS Edit: Along these lines of how much money people have, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelse have about a $1billion together. Annualized at 5%, I think that when they form their marital merger, they earn $140,000 each night while they are asleep.
You guys who are obsessed with how much money people have never write about these celebrities that are all liberal, one of you, making millions and millions of dollars for singing and acting. Never once do you mention THEIR money. Only that of successful billionaires...who did it by being producers....NOT by being singers and fooooottball players. Jesus.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou mean there is equality between Swift and Musk? With her one bil and Musk with some 300+ bil? Or Bezos or any of the other 100+ billionaires.
C'mon. Common sense. it is not hard to understand. If I have $10000, and you have $50,000, if you and I make the same investment with a 5% return, I will end up with a $500 profit. You would profit $2500.00. This seems normal to me, and goes on with millions of people each day.
So your issue can only be,,,,what,,,,that each person should have the same exact amoun ...[text shortened]... llionaires...who did it by being producers....NOT by being singers and fooooottball players. Jesus.
@sonhouse saidI did not say that, since such a statement makes no sense. Your statement makes no sense. MY statement suggests a 'Playing field of equality'. In football, each team has 11 players, all have to go 100 yards. Referred to as a level field, and I cop that phrase for saying our society has a level playing field..Same opportunity, same rights. A bank that loans a million dollars to you has to loan $1000 to a guy starting his business. Follow me here.....So that HE can make a million dollars on that field. Do you know of any circumstance where the common American citizens is denied the same rights that other people have? You do not.
You mean there is equality between Swift and Musk? With her one bil and Musk with some 300+ bil? Or Bezos or any of the other 100+ billionaires.
Why do you libs muddy up the most simple of posts? Like here, you say it is not equal for Musk to have more billions that Swift. OK, I'll bite. In that regard, they are not equal. Is that a subject you would like to pursue? That, you see, is a diff subject than the one at hand. Everyone has an opportunity. You seem to say that some do not. Boring. You are the only one who thinks that.
@AverageJoe1 saidSo, rich people are 'short' everything they give away?
( like if you have $10, and loan me $1, you are 'short' $1).
No wonder you're a greedy s.o.b.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou talk about rich people making money off their investments. How their greed to use money to make money is perfectly okay.
C'mon. Common sense. it is not hard to understand. If I have $10000, and you have $50,000, if you and I make the same investment with a 5% return, I will end up with a $500 profit. You would profit $2500.00. This seems normal to me, and goes on with millions of people each day.
So your issue can only be,,,,what,,,,that each person should have the same exact amoun ...[text shortened]... llionaires...who did it by being producers....NOT by being singers and fooooottball players. Jesus.
Well, genius, don't you realize that musicians and ball players have worked hard to hone their skills so that they are in demand by fans? You're an idiot if you think they earned their money any less than people who have a dream one night to invest in Corporation X and make a million off that random investment.
There are some things that socially aware people keep to themselves so they don't look like an idiot. Maybe you should give it a try.
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@Suzianne saidIn a sense, they are short, but the use of the word 'short ( not having enough cash for something) in this case means that govt DID have a certain amount in their Tuition Loan account, say $5,000,000, but when they loaned out $10,000 and it was not repaid......here it comes!.......they are thus short $10,000, having left over a balance of only $4,990,000.00. They are short $10,000. (My position with Marauder is that we taxpayers are thus short $10,000 in tax revenue) .
So, rich people are 'short' everything they give away?
No wonder you're a greedy s.o.b.
He has told me, in the past, something I could not understand, it could be that he said there never was a $10,000, or that forgiving a debt means that there never was one, or some such. Don't ask me, ask him. But let him answer my question first.
@Suzianne saidYou are right. But y'all only knock rich people that you don't like, who make money any way they want, like Taylor Swift and Beyonce do. Tom Cruise, $25M per picture. You never complain about their riches. So, you detest only CERTAIN rich people.
Well, genius, don't you realize that musicians and ball players have worked hard to hone their skills so that they are in demand by fans? You're an idiot if you think they earned their money any less than people who have a dream one night to invest in Corporation X and make a million off that random investment.
@AverageJoe1 saidThere is a hierarchy of billionaires. Suppose Taylor got a hard on against Musk and started suing him for something or other, who would be able to match the amount of legal eagles a Musk could muster V someone with a mere ONE billion? That is what I am referring to.
I did not say that, since such a statement makes no sense. Your statement makes no sense. MY statement suggests a 'Playing field of equality'. In football, each team has 11 players, all have to go 100 yards. Referred to as a level field, and I cop that phrase for saying our society has a level playing field..Same opportunity, same rights. A bank that loans a million ...[text shortened]... an opportunity. You seem to say that some do not. Boring. You are the only one who thinks that.
If a low billionaire like Taylor or Oprah, 1 or 2 bil, compared to hundreds of billions and a pissing contest happens, who do you think will win that tussle?