@no1marauder saidBy their very vote for their representative, they have authorized him/her to act as they do. That's it on that point. If you say not all Floridians voted for such representatives, the law is clear that all citizens must abide by the decisions of all legislators together .
You've never even read the Constitution.
There seems serious doubt Florida taxpayers agreed to pay $12,300 per person to have legal asylum seekers removed from another State (they never set foot in Florida except for brief stopovers on the flights) just because DeSantis thinks it's a good political stunt during an election year.
HERE is a real brain teaser. You wax wonderfully above about the legality or status of the aliens. If it is as pretty a picture as you depict, can you explain the videos of the people jumping out of trucks and running SOUTH, into the bushes, instead of running gleefully North? And, in one sentence you say they were arrested, then in another you say they are legal?
You have GOT to be chewing your pillow as you thresh through al of this. Please dont go personal on me, could you speak to the issues?
1 edit
@no1marauder saidthey signed a “consent” form.
Biden didn't "import" anyone.
If these people went "voluntarily", why weren't they handed a commercial airline ticket from San Antonio to Martha's Vineyard? Expedia can get you tickets at $208 to $333 at most. https://www.expedia.com/lp/flights/sat/mvy/san-antonio-to-vineyard-haven
That would have saved Florida taxpayers about $600,000.
Making false promises to p ...[text shortened]... em to do something is called "fraud". "Kids to the beach"? Surely you can't be that much of a moron.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-office-hits-back-class-action-suit-migrants-reveals-consent-form-allegedly-signed
@averagejoe1 saidABout half - 47% - are found inadmissible and returned to their home countries. https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/692/
Great news, that we have arrested 2 million aliens.
Oh, you left out, where are they being held?? I wouldn't want our readers to be misled. 🤔
The rest are admitted temporarily:
"That also means that slightly more than half (53😵 are not ultimately refused entry and are allowed to enter the country. This generally occurs for one of three primary reasons. Details are shown in Table 1 below.
The most common way for someone who is inadmissible at a port of entry to enter the United States is through what is called “parole”. Twenty-nine (29) percent are allowed in under this provision. While not formally admitted, these individuals were allowed to enter and temporarily remain in the U.S. Parole is often granted for humanitarian or public policy reasons."
"Aside from parole, there are two other main ways in which someone initially found inadmissible may enter the country. First, port officials may issue a Notice to Appear (NTA), which refers them to a hearing before the Immigration Courts.[7] Second, port officers may refer the individual for a credible fear interview with a representative of the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). Immigration Court proceedings and a credible fear interview may both take place while the individual remains detained; thus physically entering the country does not necessarily mean that the individual is free."
https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/692/
@mott-the-hoople saidGetting someone to sign a form by false promises remains "fraud". The "consent form" is barebones. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22500287-floridas-consent-form-redacted
they signed a “consent” form.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-office-hits-back-class-action-suit-migrants-reveals-consent-form-allegedly-signed
@averagejoe1 saidNo they didn't. The Florida law at issue authorized the removal of illegal immigrants from Florida to another State. These people were A) Not illegal and B) Not in Florida.
By their very vote for their representative, they have authorized him/her to act as they do. That's it on that point. If you say not all Floridians voted for such representatives, the law is clear that all citizens must abide by the decisions of all legislators together .
HERE is a real brain teaser. You wax wonderfully above about the legality or status of the ...[text shortened]... low as you thresh through al of this. Please dont go personal on me, could you speak to the issues?
I've explained the situation as well as I possibly can. People arrested at the border or nearby are not automatically expelled; they have options under the law to seek asylum or refugee status. If you don't like that law, push to change it rather than lying about the US having an "open border".
@no1marauder
Since it was a republican stunt, it doesn't matter the consent was fraud. They approve, condone and would approve again and again and again.
Only if it had been a DEM stunt would they be screaming FRAUD at the top of their pathetic lungs.
@no1marauder saidKids to the beach is a perfect analogy. You are jealous you didn’t think of it. Surely they were told on the bus how beautiful this village was going to be. You cannot deny that.
Biden didn't "import" anyone.
If these people went "voluntarily", why weren't they handed a commercial airline ticket from San Antonio to Martha's Vineyard? Expedia can get you tickets at $208 to $333 at most. https://www.expedia.com/lp/flights/sat/mvy/san-antonio-to-vineyard-haven
That would have saved Florida taxpayers about $600,000.
Making false promises to p ...[text shortened]... em to do something is called "fraud". "Kids to the beach"? Surely you can't be that much of a moron.
Yes, why not give them all tickets on Delta, I think that would have been better. Ahhh, but we must draw attention to the hell of the border. Note that it is all about the “Optics”, so it is politically expedient to point up hypocrisies, point up what the liberals are doing to our country (Source:FOX News). Did you tell us why those people run south like they are fleeing? What in the hell?
Why feign ignorance about the Martha vineyard gambit? It could not e more obvious. DeSantis is a genius. I remarked a month or so ago why doesn’t the mayor of New York City send all his released criminals down to Texas?!?!
HERE is a real brain teaser. You wax wonderfully above about the legality or status of the aliens. If it is as pretty a picture as you depict, can you explain the videos of the people jumping out of trucks and running SOUTH, into the bushes, instead of running gleefully North? And, in one sentence you say they were arrested, then in another you say they are legal?Marauder, I still think that you should respond to this for our edification
You have GOT to be chewi ...[text shortened]... low as you thresh through al of this. Please dont go personal on me, could you speak to the issues?
@averagejoe1 saidI have asked marauder to tell us what they are arrested for, I have asked why they run when they see authorities. Can marauder not answer one question without hanging in the clouds?
By their very vote for their representative, they have authorized him/her to act as they do. That's it on that point. If you say not all Floridians voted for such representatives, the law is clear that all citizens must abide by the decisions of all legislators together .
HERE is a real brain teaser. You wax wonderfully above about the legality or status of the ...[text shortened]... low as you thresh through al of this. Please dont go personal on me, could you speak to the issues?
@averagejoe1 saidI already answered it giving specific percentages of those who are immediately rendered inadmissible and those who apply for refugee or asylum status.
I have asked marauder to tell us what they are arrested for, I have asked why they run when they see authorities. Can marauder not answer one question without hanging in the clouds?
Maybe "detained" would be a better word than "arrests" as most articles use since hardly any are actually accused of a crime.
@no1marauder saidLets just let it go, semantics are outrunning the issues.
I already answered it giving specific percentages of those who are immediately rendered inadmissible and those who apply for refugee or asylum status.
Maybe "detained" would be a better word than "arrests" as most articles use since hardly any are actually accused of a crime.
Funny you say “...actually accused of a crime’ when libs don’t even acknowledge crime anymore.
I think I will go lift something at Abercrombie and see what happens. Do y’all let a guy steal up to $900( ?) at one store, and then keep hitting the same limit at each store?
Surely y’all have a limit, like the only amount given losers by the govt was $400, I think.
Does anyone here actually know a person who grifted that money?
1 edit
@no1marauder said"Hero DeSantis to fly hurricane Ian to Martha's Vineyard.
I already answered it giving specific percentages of those who are immediately rendered inadmissible and those who apply for refugee or asylum status.
Maybe "detained" would be a better word than "arrests" as most articles use since hardly any are actually accused of a crime.
Babylon Bee
@no1marauder saidIF it is not open, how did 200,000 come across last month? You speak gobbledegook .
No they didn't. The Florida law at issue authorized the removal of illegal immigrants from Florida to another State. These people were A) Not illegal and B) Not in Florida.
I've explained the situation as well as I possibly can. People arrested at the border or nearby are not automatically expelled; they have options under the law to seek asylum or refugee statu ...[text shortened]... f you don't like that law, push to change it rather than lying about the US having an "open border".
@averagejoe1 saidTrump built the wall.
IF it is not open, how did 200,000 come across last month? You speak gobbledegook .
@averagejoe1 saidTrump built the wall.
IF it is not open, how did 200,000 come across last month? You speak gobbledegook .